RedRamage Posted April 22 Posted April 22 A little project I'm working on that I need opinions on the top three Tigers of all time. Try not to let recency bias effect your decision as much as possible. I'm thinking #1 and #2 are Ty Cobb and Al Kaline, but I'm open to being persuaded if you think otherwise. Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 The only other one I might move up to third is Greenberg. If you take his predicted output from his wwii years, he gets close to Gehringer, but I'd probably still take Gehringer. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, Edman85 said: bWAR agrees with fWAR and there is separation. Greenberg might have had ~25-30 more WAR if he had played the 4 yrs he missed. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted April 22 Posted April 22 29 minutes ago, RedRamage said: A little project I'm working on that I need opinions on the top three Tigers of all time. Try not to let recency bias effect your decision as much as possible. I'm thinking #1 and #2 are Ty Cobb and Al Kaline, but I'm open to being persuaded if you think otherwise. Are pitchers included? Quote
RedRamage Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 Just now, Sports_Freak said: Are pitchers included? Anyone who played for the Tigers is included, though it's would be measured on their time as a Tiger. Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 I wouldn't put any pitchers in the top three. If Verlander had played his entire career with the Tigers, I'd probably put him in there but not based on his time with the Tigers. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted April 22 Posted April 22 20 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I wouldn't put any pitchers in the top three. If Verlander had played his entire career with the Tigers, I'd probably put him in there but not based on his time with the Tigers. Well, I'm not sure if Chris is strictly looking at a statistical top 3 or just people's opinions. Cabrera was by far the best Tiger hitter I saw in my lifetime. It's hard to judge players from a different era to today's game. Especially when we never saw some of them play. All we can go by is stats... Quote
buddha Posted April 22 Posted April 22 33 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Are pitchers included? yes but this is the tigers. lol. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 I 34 minutes ago, buddha said: another easy top 3: cobb kaline gehringer Top 3 is easy. If he said top 5, it gets more interesting. Quote
buddha Posted April 22 Posted April 22 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: I Top 3 is easy. If he said top 5, it gets more interesting. then you'd get into a nice peak vs longevity argument. especially with greenberg vs trammell/whitaker. Quote
Shinzaki Posted April 22 Posted April 22 In my fandom...roughly 1970 to today...I would say Miggy,Tram and Lou with Verlander,Lolich and Morris on the mound Quote
1776 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, bobrob2004 said: Don Kelly, Brandon Inge, and Shane Halter. Finally, somebody looks beyond the obvious. Quote
casimir Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: The only other one I might move up to third is Greenberg. If you take his predicted output from his wwii years, he gets close to Gehringer, but I'd probably still take Gehringer. The full years before and after his seasons affected by the military service, Greenberg had WARs around 6. His 162 game average WAR was higher than Gehringer. Or how about this wrinkle. Cabrera is actually below both in Tiger career WAR per baseball reference. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: The only other one I might move up to third is Greenberg. If you take his predicted output from his wwii years, he gets close to Gehringer, but I'd probably still take Gehringer. Just going by stats, I would go with Kaline, Cobb and Greenberg. But opinions? I would have to squeak Cabrera in there somehow. The recent Triple Crown, multiple HR and RBI titles, 3000 hits and 600 home runs are very hard to ignore. Older player stats great but Miggy was just so recent. A generational talent Quote
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