chasfh Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 17 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: One of the most disgusting things in the 21st Century has been how George W. Bush has been able to rehabilitate him image post Iraq War and post Trump Presidency. This week marks the 20th Anniversary since George W. Bush unlawfully and immorally invaded Iraq. He chose to invade a country based off of false pretenses and doctored, if not outright fabricated, intelligence reports. George W. Bush sold lies to the American people that Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi Military had weapons of mass destruction and were actively engaged in a chemical and biological weapons program. That was a lie, Saddam had no active WMDs or an active program to build more. Bush told the American people that Saddam was trying to acquire yellowcake uranium from Niger to build a nuclear weapons program. That was a lie. Saddam was never developing a nuclear weapons program and was not in connection with the government or any entity in Niger trying to acquire yellowcake uranium. Bush told the American people that Saddam was connected to 9/11 and Al Qaeda in some loose form or fashion. That Saddam was harboring terrorists in Iraq pre and post 9/11. That was a lie. Saddam had no connections to Al Qaeda and was not harboring terrorists from that organization. Bush told the American people that the Iraqi people would throw white roses at our feet and greet us as the great liberators from tyranny and oppression. That was a lie. In-fact, the exact opposite happened and they say us as invaders in their country, illegally and immorally occupying it. The Iraq War made people Iraqi people and those in Arab states hate the United States even more. Bush told the American people that we'd be in and out, done in a matter of months. He sold to us a war that would be over as soon as it started and we'd turn Iraq into a free, functioning, democratic government and nation almost overnight. That was a lie. The war in fact drug on for years and the death toll climbed and climbed from American Servicemembers to Iraqi Civilians. Shock and awe turned into occupy and control. The Iraqi people did not look at us as heroes, bringing them democracy. What we got in Iraq was not what George W. Bush promised us. What we had instead was a horrific tragedy, on one of the largest scales of the 21st century. We had over 4,000 flag draped coffins, with American Service Members whose lives were tragically cut short. Soldiers and Military Members would never come home to their families, lost to the horror of a needless war forever. We had the loss of over 100,000 Iraqi Civilians and the disruption of a people's entire way of living, thrown into chaos and mass violence. 100,000 Iraqi Civilians who might still be alive today had we not invaded. Children who might have gotten to grow old. Parents who never lost a child or a child who never lost a parent. Entire families, friendships, and villages torn apart in a matter of days, months, and years. We had the destabilization of an entire region thanks to the upheaval caused by the ousting of Saddam Hussein's regime, with no clear, working plan in place to have a functioning government after his removal from power. A region taken over not by a wave of freedom and democracy as the Bush Administration had promised. Rather, a region held hostage by terror, paralyzed in fear, reduced to rubble, with people left broken, impoverished, homeless, and starving. Entire countries destabilized, allowing the rise of violent extremist and terrorist organizations like ISIS. I'm posting about Iraq as a solemn reminder of the horrors and barbarism of war. I'm posting it as a reminder so that we learn from our mistakes of the past, think more critically in the future, and not fall for the same drumbeat off to war as we did in Iraq. I'm posting as a reminder that individuals like George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Richard Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Bremmer, Condoleezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, and many others who served as the masterminds behind the war effort be held to account. A reminder that there were those who distorted the intelligence reports and insisted Saddam Hussein and Iraq were a grave threat to America, but were too cowardly themselves pick up a rifle, sit in a tank, or fly a mission and fight the battle. A reminder that President Bush is a war criminal, not an American hero. To all those family members and friends who lost a service member they loved in the War in Iraq I am so deeply sorry for what happened to them and to you. No amount of I'm sorries can overcome your anguish or bring them back. The tragedy of Iraq provides us all with a great opportunity to learn to think critically about the nature and brutal destruction of war. It lends us the opportunity to be critical of those in power who seek to rush us off to war. God bless all who served and sacrificed their lives and each of their families. God bless all the Iraqi Civilians who were lost to this war. Now do Reagan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, pfife said: Not for nothing, the kids are the only people in that picture not smiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Why not both? Make the little bastards put in a work day starting at sunrise, and then give them a free lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Worst kept secret ever.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, oblong said: Get ready for the worst possible take on that. What a dipshit tool. I want michigan to do this and I'd definitely be amongst those paying for it. The picture with Minnesota governor is so great. Photo of the year candidate IMO. I absolutely love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Worst kept secret ever.... Wow. This predates me a bit but Republicans never change. Sacrifice Americans wellbeing for their own political success seems like a worn theme for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Just remember Nixon did the same thing during the Viet Nam negations. You'll get a better deal with Nixon than what you're currently getting with LBJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Worst kept secret ever.... Right next to Nixon's Vietnam deal in 1968... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Just remember Nixon did the same thing during the Viet Nam negations. You'll get a better deal with Nixon than what you're currently getting with LBJ Great minds and all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Great minds and all... Notice how Roy Cohn intesects both Nixon and Trump and even Reagan via Rchard Casey. Edited March 18, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Notice how Roy Cohn intersects both Nixon and Trump and even Reagan via Rchard Casey. And Trump follows Cohn's MO, as he was taught... to the letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 I’m skeptical of the Iran thing if it involves Connally. I saw some tweets about it basically laying out his ineptitude and the fact people he knew in the ME were no friends to the new folks in Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oblong Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 My mother in law always points to "their pay" when talking about politicians and spending and what should be done to fix the budgets. Their pay is a rounding error. in scope. I even hear it at city council meetings where in our city they get like $10K, plus $100 a meeting. Nobody's on city council for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 48 minutes ago, oblong said: My mother in law always points to "their pay" when talking about politicians and spending and what should be done to fix the budgets. Their pay is a rounding error. in scope. I even hear it at city council meetings where in our city they get like $10K, plus $100 a meeting. Nobody's on city council for the money. 1000%.... and the less you pay, the more that offices are left to the uber-wealthy who can afford to rep for peanuts. And the less beholden they are to you, the taxpayer. It's one of those populist stances that is absolutely awful in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Democrats trying to feed kids. Republicans making it easier to shoot them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, oblong said: Democrats trying to feed kids. Republicans making it easier to shoot them. Give them a little more credit, they are also trying to work them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, oblong said: Democrats trying to feed kids. Republicans making it easier to shoot them. I also would prefer meals over bullets for kids (or work shovels as MB just pointed out...). WTF is wrong with these (all white) dudes...? Edited March 31, 2023 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasTiger Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) Edited March 31, 2023 by VegasTiger 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Nick continues to bring the comedy gold. Shine on you crazy diamond! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I think he's a ruse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, oblong said: I think he's a ruse. I can never figure out if he’s satire or lacks any self awareness. Leaning towards the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I do believe he was pictured once with Trump at Mar A Lago. I think he does exist and is a Trumper. I'm just not sure how much is satire and how much is genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I'm guessing if he were a true Trumper, he wouldn't get satire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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