mtutiger Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I would just add that, in regard to Trump's reasoning on the travel ban and the "it's not against all Muslims, just those countries", I thought one of the most telling lines during his Presidency was the "shithole countries" remark. Not just because he referred to Haiti and African nations as "shithole countries", which is obviously terrible, but it was telling for the more forgotten part of that diatribe, where he lamented that "we should have more people from Norway". It's telling in that the large majority of immigration in the United States has generally happened because those immigrating are trying to escape something.... again, all of my ancestors (who immigrated during various centurites) were trying to escape economic hardship or war. People in Norway? They aren't immigrating because, you know, why the hell would you leave Norway? At best, it's just a fundamental misreading of the history of immigration in the United States... but I don't give Trump the benefit of the doubt on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Nazi chants in Canada yesterday (that Arch posted in a celebratory way yesterday) - is he for cutting off Canadian immigration or are Nazi chants ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I would just add that, in regard to Trump's reasoning on the travel ban and the "it's not against all Muslims, just those countries", I thought one of the most telling lines during his Presidency was the "shithole countries" remark. Not just because he referred to Haiti and African nations as "shithole countries", which is obviously terrible, but it was telling for the more forgotten part of that diatribe, where he lamented that "we should have more people from Norway". It's telling in that the large majority of immigration in the United States has generally happened because those immigrating are trying to escape something.... again, all of my ancestors (who immigrated during various centurites) were trying to escape economic hardship or war. People in Norway? They aren't immigrating because, you know, why the hell would you leave Norway? At best, it's just a fundamental misreading of the history of immigration in the United States... but I don't give Trump the benefit of the doubt on that. The Norway comment stuck out to me as well. It reminded me of Lebensborn children where Nazi soldiers would mate with women from Norway since they were considered the most pure to create a new pure Aryan race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, pfife said: Nazi chants in Canada yesterday (that Arch posted in a celebratory way yesterday) - is he for cutting off Canadian immigration or are Nazi chants ok? Florida too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie said: It sounds like a democrat rally speach here. Lets support the foreigners who don't like us before we protect the American citizens. Ilhan omar would be proud. Said nobody ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, pfife said: Yep. Republicans tried to overthrow the government and Archie defends and celebrates them. Bunker doesn’t like Trump tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I see no difference between "Foreigners who don't like us" and the modern GOP. Neither group likes America. They don't get a pass for being on this soil or winning the birth lottery. Character matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I'm not sure I agree that the modern GOP doesn't like America. They like a certain type of America that was prevalent once but no longer is . What they don't like is the America that's replacing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Speaking of liking foreigners who don't like us, the Trumpers sure seem to have a lot of affection for Putin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, chasfh said: Said nobody ever. Action speak louder than words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Archie said: Action speak louder than words. You're right in that the anti-American action of the Republicans belie their empty words. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, chasfh said: You're right in that the anti-American action of the Republicans belie their empty words. Let me guess...you think this based on protest your party calls a coup or insurrection for political reasons. Democrats want to give Iran ability to have nuclear weapons, don't beleive in law and order, lie to the American people to impeach a POTUS, make false accusations to hurt a SCOTUS candidate, ignore open borders, ignore national security threats so the dont offend our enemy, want to create new voting laws so they will never lose another election, want to seperate people by the color of their skin and this is just a start. This list could go on and on. Some of the comments here show just how uniformed some people are. It no wonder this country is deteriorating so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Archie said: ... Our biggest threats to national security is from ... White Trash Bigots who have decided to resort to violence and fascism and would rather shit all over the Constitution of the United States of America rather than learn to live with people who don't look like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Archie said: Let me guess...you think this based on protest your party calls a coup or insurrection for political reasons. Democrats want to give Iran ability to have nuclear weapons, don't beleive in law and order, lie to the American people to impeach a POTUS, make false accusations to hurt a SCOTUS candidate, ignore open borders, ignore national security threats so the dont offend our enemy, want to create new voting laws so they will never lose another election, want to seperate people by the color of their skin and this is just a start. This list could go on and on. Some of the comments here show just how uniformed some people are. It no wonder this country is deteriorating so fast. I'm not a party guy. I'm a liberal. Learn the difference. Party or not, it was not simply a protest. People broke into the Capitol, violently attacking police to do so, and trawled the halls looking for congressional reps to force them to to give the presidency to the man who lost the election. There is video and sworn testimony attesting to all this. that is a fact, and it is not up for debate. Regardless of whether twenty thousand or whatever people in the crowd might not have unlawfully broken into the Capitol with the intention of forcing the election results to be thrown out, two thousand people did do that, so that's an insurrection, an attempted coup, and any other synonym that might be applied to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Archie said: Action speak louder than words. Yet you want to ban people from countries from immigrating here b/c of their chants (words), and look past that they didn't terrorist(action). Do you even try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, oblong said: Florida too.... Very fine people on both sides of the freeway I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie said: Let me guess...you think this based on protest your party calls a coup or insurrection for political reasons. Democrats want to give Iran ability to have nuclear weapons, don't beleive in law and order, lie to the American people to impeach a POTUS, make false accusations to hurt a SCOTUS candidate, ignore open borders, ignore national security threats so the dont offend our enemy, want to create new voting laws so they will never lose another election, want to seperate people by the color of their skin and this is just a start. This list could go on and on. Some of the comments here show just how uniformed some people are. It no wonder this country is deteriorating so fast. Trump literally admitted he was trying to overturn the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Looks like you need to grab the new version of the talking points chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie said: Let me guess...you think this based on protest your party calls a coup or insurrection for political reasons. Democrats want to give Iran ability to have nuclear weapons, don't beleive in law and order, lie to the American people to impeach a POTUS, make false accusations to hurt a SCOTUS candidate, ignore open borders, ignore national security threats so the dont offend our enemy, want to create new voting laws so they will never lose another election, want to seperate people by the color of their skin and this is just a start. This list could go on and on. Some of the comments here show just how uniformed some people are. It no wonder this country is deteriorating so fast. These are all either flat out lies or pure projection. It’s Tucker Carlson Mad Libs. Who’s the uninformed ones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, Archie said: ... Democrats want to give Iran ability to have nuclear weapons... Bullshit. 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... don't believe in law and order... Bullshit. That's Today's Republicans. 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... lie to the American people to impeach a POTUS... Bullshit. It was the Lying POTUS who was impeached, twice, once for attempting to overthrow our Democracy. 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... make false accusations to hurt a SCOTUS candidate... Pure bullshit. 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... ignore open borders... Pure bullshit. 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... ignore national security threats... Pure bullshit. Or were you thinking of Trump licking Putin's boots on a daily basis? 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... want to create new voting laws so they will never lose another election... Pure bullshit. Absolute projection. Republican legislatures all over the country have decided to throw out their states votes and just elect whomever they want by fiat. This is a straight up LIE. 49 minutes ago, Archie said: Democrats... want to separate people by the color of their skin... You have got to be fucking kidding me. I have no f'ing respect whatsoever for this tripe. And I'll stop here because the rest of what I want to say will get me permanently banned on this site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I think whomever said Archie wasn’t a troll, probably takes that back. I’m guilty or taking that bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tigerbomb13 said: I think whomever said Archie wasn’t a troll, probably takes that back. I’m guilty or taking that bait. It was me, and I actually still think it - he sounds like republicans I hear calling into CSPAN every day. They believe this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 This Ignore option is not really working all that well because I see a constant stream of quotes from this person. And it's almost all poisonous. IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Bullshit. Bullshit. That's Today's Republicans. Bullshit. It was the Lying POTUS who was impeached, twice, once for attempting to overthrow our Democracy. Pure bullshit. Pure bullshit. Pure bullshit. Or were you thinking of Trump licking Putin's boots on a daily basis? Pure bullshit. Absolute projection. Republican legislatures all over the country have decided to throw out their states votes and just elect whomever they want by fiat. This is a straight up LIE. You have got to be fucking kidding me. I have no f'ing respect whatsoever for this tripe. And I'll stop here because the rest of what I want to say will get me permanently banned on this site. Good lord you're delusional. Im going to take a break from this socialist oasis for a while. Your comments and opinions here are so off base and in left field its not even close to being realistic. One thing I have learned here is the mindset it took to vote for Biden and be willing to sacrifice our country for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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