RatkoVarda Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 some smart person on the twitter pointed out how ridiculous a 5 or less majority would be; reps get sick, go to weddings, funerals, die, are stoned out of their minds at their crash pad, are stuck in traffic, or just want to screw over someone in their own caucus. there will be no Pelosi on the GQP side to keep them united; and they have Team Crazy to deal with; should be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Does the outstanding vote in Arizona look good enough for Hobbs to hold on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Tim Miller on The Bulwark podcast today...calls out our great state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, romad1 said: Tim Miller on The Bulwark podcast today...calls out our great state. I was reminded on this pod of the Gretchen Whitmer "Its Shark Week, mother fu$#er" which of course because Trump is terrified of Sharks was a power move. Edited November 12, 2022 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Will it? I don’t know … Americans have short memories, aided by sophisticated media messaging … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: Will it? I don’t know … Americans have short memories, aided by sophisticated media messaging … Sorry, what were we talking about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, romad1 said: Sorry, what were we talking about? Whether the dishonor will remain for Republicans once Trump is gone, as alleged by Liz Cheney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Whether the dishonor will remain for Republicans once Trump is gone, as alleged by Liz Cheney. sorry man..that was my lame attempt at comedy. I'd already forgotten because I had a short memory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Trump lost his token Black female. She's upset because he was rude to her and won't ever admit he's wrong about anything. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Trump lost his token Black female. She's upset because he was rude to her and won't ever admit he's wrong about anything. LOL How could she have possibly known lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Trump lost his token Black female. some people have noted that even if the GOP coalesces around someone new, Trump is likely to run 3rd party, which probably gives the Dems 400 EV. But even if he doesn't, for the foreseeable future elections are all going to turn on turn-out, because no-one's mind is being changed by anything in the US today, and there just isn't any doubt that a GOP without Trump on the ballot is going to be a less enthusiastic GOP, which means a lower turn-out GOP. But of course it cuts both ways, even with all the 'threat to Democracy' drumbeat on the D side, it looks like 2022 total turnout will be lower than 2018 was - ergo the loss of the House seats. Just as Trump on the ballot drives GOP turnout, Trump out of office reduces the perceived theat that drives D turnout. The good new for the Dems is the trend of more young people voting, even as limited as it is. Edited November 13, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: some people have noted that even if the GOP coalesces around someone new, Trump is likely to run 3rd party, which probably gives the Dems 400 EV. But even if he doesn't, for the foreseeable future elections are all going to turn on turn-out, because no-one's mind is being changed by anything in the US today, and there just isn't any doubt that a GOP without Trump on the ballot is going to be a less enthusiastic GOP, which means a lower turn-out GOP. But of course it cuts both ways, even with all the 'threat to Democracy' drumbeat on the D side, it looks like 2022 total turnout will be lower than 2018 was - ergo the loss of the House seats. Just as Trump on the ballot drives GOP turnout, Trump out of office reduces the perceived theat that drives D turnout. The good new for the Dems is the trend of more young people voting, even as limited as it is. I can see him doing well in the prmaries, but losing the nomination to DeSantis and the response will be predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I can see him doing well in the prmaries, but losing the nomination to DeSantis and the response will be predictable. The GOP might come up with something like requiring a pledge not to run 3rd party as a requirement to admission to primary debates. Of course, not clear how the GOP could enforce that, and lying his way onto the stage would be nothing out of character for Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: The GOP might come up with something like requiring a pledge not to run 3rd party as a requirement to admission to primary debates. Of course, not clear how the GOP could enforce that, and lying his way onto the stage would be nothing out of character for Trump. Until I see someone stand up to Trump I assume no one will. My assumption is that he’ll get the nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Sure took long enough to get this out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 16 hours ago, ben9753 said: Until I see someone stand up to Trump I assume no one will. My assumption is that he’ll get the nomination. If the Republicans get behind one person from the start (only one person runs against Trump) they can beat him. But if there are 4 or 5 people running, Trump's going to win because all you need is 30% and he's got 30% of them in his pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: If the Republicans get behind one person from the start (only one person runs against Trump) they can beat him. But if there are 4 or 5 people running, Trump's going to win because all you need is 30% and he's got 30% of them in his pocket. If Fox annoints someone they might have a shot, but I'm struggling to think of what issues or approaches a GOP candidate can offer that would distinguish him from the field in some way that didn't happen in 2016. The GOP still doesn't have anything in the way of a program to offer which is what left the race open to be a personality contest then. If it is again, Trump still has the advantage. I suppose a GOP candidate could run in the primaries on a national abortion ban platform and pull enough evangelicals that it might get him through the primaries, but it would seem to be a disastrous course for winning the general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Cat Gentleman Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Ginni, funny running into you here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: Ginni, funny running into you here... the "Honorable" Matthew Schlapp? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, oblong said: LOL Casting call for a Disney+ princess movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 That's one thing I agree with Trump on..............being terrified of sharks. Maybe the only smartest thing he's done. But, yeah, Big Gretch knew when to use it. She is gong to be a Presidential favorite in '24, '28 or '32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Casting call for a Disney+ princess movie? well, maybe for the costume designers, not so much some of those folks filling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: That's one thing I agree with Trump on..............being terrified of sharks. Maybe the only smartest thing he's done. But, yeah, Big Gretch knew when to use it. She is gong to be a Presidential favorite in '24, '28 or '32. You have to appreciate. She's got game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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