chasfh Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 18 hours ago, romad1 said: I think he missed that he was given a chance. But not showing up in person, giving his own defense of sexual assault if done by celebrities, and telling in his deposition that he wouldn't rape the defense counsel because she wasn't his type might have hurt his chances, no? I’m with you on all this, but really, does it even matter? All he has to do is just say he wasn’t given a chance, and that’s good enough not only for the hundred million or so bamboozled red hats, but, distressingly, also for tens of millions of others who know him only as an ex-President—just like Obama is—and who don’t follow any of this even the littlest bit. It’s not as though any of them are going to fact-check this online and be horrified into setting or changing their minds. And the latter category—those who don’t really know or follow—that’s the real prize, because they could decide to vote for him at the last moment knowing nothing more about him than the thing he said the day before the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: I’m with you on all this, but really, does it even matter? All he has to do is just say he wasn’t given a chance, and that’s good enough not only for the hundred million or so bamboozled red hats, but, distressingly, also for tens of millions of others who know him only as an ex-President—just like Obama is—and who don’t follow any of this even the littlest bit. It’s not as though any of them are going to fact-check this online and be horrified into setting or changing their minds. And the latter category—those who don’t really know or follow—that’s the real prize, because they could decide to vote for him at the last moment knowing nothing more about him than the thing he said the day before the election. The reaction of the GOP Senate right now is interesting. There have been some interesting defections. The foghorn leghorn bull**** artists who are in on the MAGA grift are gone forever to reason, but the few normals indicate that the Trump support in the suburbs among women and sentient men has cratered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Trump was given a chance to testify, in fact he was given several chances but opted to go on vacation to a golf course in Scotland. If Trump was going to blame someone maybe it should be one of his vast team of law school dropouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Trump was given a chance to testify, in fact he was given several chances but opted to go on vacation to a golf course in Scotland. If Trump was going to blame someone maybe it should be one of his vast team of law school dropouts. That c- legal team knew they had to keep the random noise generator off the stand. He's already incriminated himself enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Trump was given a chance to testify, in fact he was given several chances but opted to go on vacation to a golf course in Scotland. If Trump was going to blame someone maybe it should be one of his vast team of law school dropouts. lol if Trump was going to blame someone Who would he ever not blame? Is even Ivanka untouchable now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: Lemme guess, false flag, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 And the beat goes on…and on and on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: Why am I just a little surprised that rather than ”request a meeting at [his] earliest convenience”, they didn’t simply demand that Garland immediately come to Mar-a-Lago alone for a little chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 True mob type stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Trump will use EO to change constitution, just like Madison intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 19 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: Trump will use EO to change constitution, just like Madison intended It doesn't matter whether he does it. It matters only that he says he's going to do it. His only interest is in getting elected, not in governing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I would bet my life savings on Trump NOT getting elected. No way he gets the EC ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I would bet my life savings on Trump NOT getting elected. No way he gets the EC ever again. This is so dangerously wrong. Trump beat Clinton by less than 80K votes across 3 states; Biden beat Trump by less then 45K votes across 3 states. If the DNC get out the vote was just a little stronger (or if Comey does not kneecap her), Trump is never President. Similarly, if Trump is just little less disgusting in his first term, he would have tied Biden at 269 and the House would have re-elected him. Trump absolutely has an EC path in 2024, narrow as it may be, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: This is so dangerously wrong. Trump beat Clinton by less than 80K votes across 3 states; Biden beat Trump by less then 45K votes across 3 states. If the DNC get out the vote was just a little stronger (or if Comey does not kneecap her), Trump is never President. Similarly, if Trump is just little less disgusting in his first term, he would have tied Biden at 269 and the House would have re-elected him. Trump absolutely has an EC path in 2024, narrow as it may be, Dangerous, of course. Trump is pushing that 3rd way candidate via Bannon and company as a way to bleed off votes from normals. That is why groups are working so hard to make sure people don't waste vote on these candidates and concentrate on the main foes of democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasTiger Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 In 2020 Trump had more votes than anyone in history not named Biden. In 2020 after 4 years of his idiocy! Don't think for a moment it couldn't happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It will be interesting to see if Ken Paxton rolls on his comments that he manipulated the Texas election results on Trump's behalf. That would be very interesting. Might be too much for the system to absorb but it needs to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Trump could very easily win again. I don't think it's even a longshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, VegasTiger said: In 2020 Trump had more votes than anyone in history not named Biden. In 2020 after 4 years of his idiocy! Don't think for a moment it couldn't happen again. Yeah - this is exactly the kind of "Euwww, but Biden is old and wrinkly" democratic party apathy election that could put us right back to the 2016 disaster. The other elephant in the room is that the Dems would also apparently rather lose than replace Harris on the ticket. I haven't seen a VP get less love from their own party since Dan Quayle. Edited May 31, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'll just go back to the Nixon movie: "What if Kennedy don't run?" I think the likelihood of him being in jail is equal to him being the GOP nominee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, romad1 said: I'll just go back to the Nixon movie: "What if Kennedy don't run?" I think the likelihood of him being in jail is equal to him being the GOP nominee. The two are not mutually exclusive. How many states do you suppose actually bar a candidate in jail from the ticket? If they don't, it won't make any difference. And actually pretty sure they couldn't anyway -- states can't set requirements for Federal office holders and the Constitution doesn't say anything about disqualification for being locked up. Unfortunately, despite it being pretty obvious now, the Founders failed to anticipate that half the nation's electorate might someday go insane. Edited May 31, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I would bet my life savings on Trump NOT getting elected. No way he gets the EC ever again. I agree that Trump cannot win a free and fair election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: I agree that Trump cannot win a free and fair election. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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