Useful Idiot Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 As Randy Marsh pointed out in the game day thread, The White Sox have DFA'ed Dallas Keuchel, and as bad as he has been lately, I still think we should make a "high potential upside" gamble on him. As depleted as our pitching corps are, and the season seemingly in the toilet, I don't see much down side. Who knows? Give him a fresh start, new playground, a few favorable matchups, and if the stars line up trade him at the deadline for cheap and controllable prospects Get 'er done, big Al !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKNIGHT Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I agree. Detroit should offer Dallas Keuchel a two year contract. The remainder of 2022 and 2023. 8 million guaranteed and a $500,000 signing bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I wouldn't be completely against it just cause I have so much faith in Fetter and it would be low risk but after looking at his numbers both statistically and pitch f/x and I have to say that I'm a little skeptical that he can be saved. Again though considering we'd only be on the hook for the league minimum the rest of the season and the fact that we could use some starting pitching I wouldn't be opposed to it. It's not like we don't have guys that we could cut to make room for him either, if our 40 was filled with guys that I'd be worried about losing that would be another thing that would deter me from the move but that's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, UCFKNIGHT said: I agree. Detroit should offer Dallas Keuchel a two year contract. The remainder of 2022 and 2023. 8 million guaranteed and a $500,000 signing bonus. 2023??? He is a DFA. Don't even think about next year. Maybe pick him for this year and see if Fetters can work with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: 2023??? He is a DFA. Don't even think about next year. Maybe pick him for this year and see if Fetters can work with him. He probably needs a chemist more than a pitching coach. I tend to think Keuchel is one guy that really misses the spider-tac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) I guess there are quite a few teams who will be in line in front of us. Doubtful they will all pass? I guess even the Twins would have dibs before us. Edited May 29, 2022 by Useful Idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I think that everybody passes and he gets a minor league deal. Guarantee him $8 million? That deal would be Pelfrey-esque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim Cowan said: I think that everybody passes and he gets a minor league deal. Guarantee him $8 million? That deal would be Pelfrey-esque. The radio field mikes were very adept at picking up Pelfrey’s F bombs. This will be what my mind’s ears hear if I read that the Tigers pick up that $8M tab. They have no bats right now, they have too many Ps on the active roster, and we want them to waste time with this has been? Simply terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 It is absolutely pointless to invest money in saving this season. Keuchel is cooked...people see a big name getting cut by another team and assume he can help the Tigers. He can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 keuchel is done. minor league deal or pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFCFM Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Hard pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 He is more "I don't care" than hard pass. He won't cost anything more than prorated league minimum and he wouldn't be blocking anyone. he is also most likely not fixable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobrob2004 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, kdog said: It is absolutely pointless to invest money in saving this season. Keuchel is cooked...people see a big name getting cut by another team and assume he can help the Tigers. He can't. He can help by eating innings. With the amount of injuries the Tigers have, they are currently using one rotation day as a bullpen day. Having another starter, either Keuchel or someone else, would be better than taxing our bullpen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said: He can help by eating innings can he? Only if he's not getting hammered. He's currently giving up 2 baserunners per inning. It only make sense if somebody like Fetter looked at some film and thought there was something fixable in some straightforward way. Possible, but with a guy as experienced as Keuchel it's less likely he isn't able to figure out his problem himself if it was something fixable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 I was thinking more towards the time where we paid Brandon Inge everyday, to put on an A's uniform. If Avila was slick enough to pull this off with Keuchel, I would consider it a bright spot on his otherwise disappointing resume. What? We'd end up paying pro-rata of league minimum for the balance of this year? Wouldn't that be something like $500K ? Even with this season in the krapper, little itch could look at it like a trip to the casino. Bet $500K that Fetter can make Keuchel tradable (for prospects) by the deadline. And if that don't pay off, cheap coverage for the remainder of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFCFM Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: can he? Only if he's not getting hammered. He's currently giving up 2 baserunners per inning. My thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 wants to give up on 29 year old javy baez in a slump yet is all gung ho to pay 34 year old dallas keuchel who has been one of the worst pitchers in baseball for two seasons. makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: can he? Only if he's not getting hammered. He's currently giving up 2 baserunners per inning. It only make sense if somebody like Fetter looked at some film and thought there was something fixable in some straightforward way. Possible, but with a guy as experienced as Keuchel it's less likely he isn't able to figure out his problem himself if it was something fixable. 32 innings, 49 hits, 20 walks, 20 K's. And here is the most damning evidence of all - he's lefthanded for Pete's sake! If a lefthander can fog up a mirror he usually keeps getting chances. He will sign a Triple A contract somewhere, get shellacked in 4 starts, and get released again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 I think it's pretty much a lock that no one is gonna make Baez tradable by the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFCFM Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Useful Idiot said: I think it's pretty much a lock that no one is gonna make Baez tradable by the deadline. You got that right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobrob2004 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: can he? Only if he's not getting hammered. He's currently giving up 2 baserunners per inning. It only make sense if somebody like Fetter looked at some film and thought there was something fixable in some straightforward way. Possible, but with a guy as experienced as Keuchel it's less likely he isn't able to figure out his problem himself if it was something fixable. If it doesn't work out in a few starts, then release him. There's 0 risk involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFCFM Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, bobrob2004 said: If it doesn't work out in a few starts, then release him. There's 0 risk involved. Fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) Why on earth would this team need Dallas Keuchel? Like, what does he give you that Joey Wentz, Garrett Hill or Reese Olson wouldn't give you if, God forbid, they need to reach further into the system? Or even Drew Hutchison or Chase Anderson for that matter? If this were a position player reclamation project, it would be one thing, but they don't really need a reclamation project pitcher to fix the mess they are in. Edited May 29, 2022 by mtutiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Really the only way I would be interested in him is if 1) he is released, 2) he would be okay with a cheap minor league contract, 3) he would be willing to go to the pen, 4) at AAA he showed he could hit 92/93 with his fastball for an inning. All those things would need to happen. Then see how he does with the Tigers. Otherwise, what mtu sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said: Really the only way I would be interested in him is if 1) he is released, 2) he would be okay with a cheap minor league contract, 3) he would be willing to go to the pen, 4) at AAA he showed he could hit 92/93 with his fastball for an inning. All those things would need to happen. Then see how he does with the Tigers. Otherwise, what mtu sad. Its worth adding that the team has a guy who profiles as an innings eater in Big Mike Pineda. Who is, by all accounts, about a month away from returning from injury and is significantly more effective than Keuchel at this point in his career. I'll take my chances with the youngsters and AAAA guys in the system and wait for Pineda to get back over going with Keuchel, whose top line and peripheral stats are some of the worst in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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