kdog Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Kody Clemens is 0-17 in the majors. The spark plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 The Tigers finished the day with two base hits. This is the sixth time the Tigers have gotten two or fewer hits in a game this season. Out of 2,542 teams since 1901, 169 teams, or just 6.6% of total teams, had two or fewer hits at least six games in an entire season. With just 59 games played this season so far, the 2022 Tigers are already on this list. The 2022 Tigers are on track to finish the season with 16 or 17 games with two or fewer hits. The major league record is 11, by four teams: the 1910 White Sox, the 1911 Browns, the 1965 Mets, and the 1968 Cubs. At this rate, the 2022 Tigers will break this record on August 15, our 118th game. The prop bet is: Scott Coolbaugh will still be the hitting coach when the Tigers break this record. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 This press conference with AJ seems more tense today... press kinda pushing on the lack of offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raind Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I think I napped for most of it, good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, mtutiger said: This press conference with AJ seems more tense today... press kinda pushing on the lack of offense He looked like a guy who doesn’t have any answers. I don’t really blame him. But they have another 100 games to play so he has to get something out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Just now, kdog said: He looked like a guy who doesn’t have any answers. I don’t really blame him. But they have another 100 games to play so he has to get something out of it. His answers were all correct as far as I was concerned, a lot of these guys have track records and aren't meeting them. Just seemed like the questioning was more pointed.... patience may be wearing thin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Two measly hits and unfortunately none of these guys have any trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: they take too many middle middle fastballs (like Cabrera just did). They are all doing it. It's crazy how many cookies this team takes. When you see a guy do that who got to 500 homers because he *always* jumped 1st pitch FBs, you know something weird is going on. They keep harping on 'staying in the strike zone' and that may be true for Javy, but the rest of them need to hit a good pitch when they get it. Wasn't that the "take " on Issac Parades as well. Too selective. Now he is showing power in Tampa. Not knocking the trade but has analytics made Geeks out of hitters ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Christian Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, chasfh said: At least we have the best play-by-play guy in the game on the radio. We don't get radio broadcasts in our part of the U.P. anymore. If we did I would be tuning in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, mtutiger said: His answers were all correct as far as I was concerned, a lot of these guys have track records and aren't meeting them. Just seemed like the questioning was more pointed.... patience may be wearing thin I’m not criticizing hinch. He doesn’t have options within the organization to change half the lineup. He has to trust his process and hope things turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtrain72 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, kdog said: I’m not criticizing hinch. He doesn’t have options within the organization to change half the lineup. He has to trust his process and hope things turn. He won't be here next year and he knows it...he has a bunch of other better options available after this season that dont include the two dipshits in Chris and Al and their dipshit stranglehold of dipshittery over the team he's trying to manage, and I wont blame him when he bails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dtrain72 said: He won't be here next year and he knows it...he has a bunch of other better options available after this season that dont include the two dipshits in Chris and Al and their dipshit stranglehold of dipshittery over the team he's trying to manage, and I wont blame him when he bails. He will be here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On the plus side, the White Sox have basically burned through their entire bullpen against the Rangers today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleMike Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, mtutiger said: On the plus side, the White Sox have basically burned through their entire bullpen against the Rangers today. All they will need is a couple of average MLB quality arms available tomorrow and it should be smooth sailing for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SeattleMike said: All they will need is a couple of average MLB quality arms available tomorrow and it should be smooth sailing for them. I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but believe it or not, the Tigers actually have a better record over the last 10 games than the Sox. It matters, regardless of how bad the offense has looked. Edited June 12, 2022 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Yea stet day I was again hopeful and today it’s back to tears. What a roller coaster and what a fool I am for hoping. What are the odds of so many veteran players turning to toast at the same time ? Grossman Schoop Barnhart Baez Candy Meadows all giving nothing or very little at all offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Not sure why Hinch and his staff are given a free pass. These are mostly established major leaguers with track records. How is this all on Avila? If he wants to leave, good on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: He will be here next year. Yes. He's got nowhere else to go. He doesn't have any more market value than Robbie Grossman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Yea stet day I was again hopeful and today it’s back to tears. What a roller coaster and what a fool I am for hoping. I think you’ve got something here SoCal. Work up a couple of good chords to put with this and you’ve got a hit on your hands. I’d either go country or retro, something like a 60’s remake sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Not sure why Hinch and his staff are given a free pass. These are mostly established major leaguers with track records. How is this all on Avila? If he wants to leave, good on him. I don't care about Hinch. The Astros are doing fine without him and the Tigers are still bad. However, if Fetters is responsible for the Tigers pitching and we need Hinch to keep Fetters, then I want Hinch as the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Hinch has an out-clause in his contract, but not sure how that would apply to Fetter. It would also be an incredibly bad look for Hinch to bail on his team, which is why I don't see it happening. After the cheating scandal, I doubt he'd want to take on more needless heat. I'm also fairly confident he had a hand in on how this roster was assembled--they don't sign Baez and Eduardo, trade for Meadows and Barnhart without his blessing. We have had an insane number of injuries (basically our entire rotation, except for Skubal) and a head-scratching lack of offensive production (that seems to be going around MLB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Hinch has an out-clause in his contract, but not sure how that would apply to Fetter. It would also be an incredibly bad look for Hinch to bail on his team, which is why I don't see it happening. After the cheating scandal, I doubt he'd want to take on more needless heat. I'm also fairly confident he had a hand in on how this roster was assembled--they don't sign Baez and Eduardo, trade for Meadows and Barnhart without his blessing. We have had an insane number of injuries (basically our entire rotation, except for Skubal) and a head-scratching lack of offensive production (that seems to be going around MLB) I also don't view him is as valuable a commodity to other MLB teams as much of the Tiger fan base does... there's no way the Mets are gonna clear out Buck Showalter just for the opportunity to bring on AJ Hinch. Or any other contender for that matter For better or worse, this fan base has an inferiority complex whereby we are lucky to be graced with Hinch's presence... the reality is that he has had a big hand in assembling this roster and supposedly in some of the minor league development hires. The success and failures of this team will reflect on him in the eyes of the league. Edited June 13, 2022 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Hinch has an out-clause in his contract, but not sure how that would apply to Fetter. It would also be an incredibly bad look for Hinch to bail on his team, which is why I don't see it happening. After the cheating scandal, I doubt he'd want to take on more needless heat. I'm also fairly confident he had a hand in on how this roster was assembled--they don't sign Baez and Eduardo, trade for Meadows and Barnhart without his blessing. We have had an insane number of injuries (basically our entire rotation, except for Skubal) and a head-scratching lack of offensive production (that seems to be going around MLB) I think you're right about him not leaving, unless maybe they have a great rest of the season and he looks like a kind of turnaround expert. The injuries have just been staggering… I cannot figure out how a team has so many injuries both in pitching and in positional talent. I'm inclined to just chalk it up to bad luck at this time. Also the lack of a proper Spring training might have impacted this as well? As far as the hitting is concerned, I am inclined to attribute the league wide slowdown to a change in the baseball starting at the beginning of this season…. that's the only explanation that makes any sense to me. I think if the baseball has been dead and, my guess is that it impacts mediocre hitting teams like the Tigers Tigers more significantly.... They already had less margin for error and now hope and now home runs that were sneaking over the fence are warning track fly outs and and line drive hits are turning into soft outs. I haven't assembled any study material, but my perusing of Tigers peripherals shows a similar pct pf barrels, but hard hit ball percentages have dropped, and their home run to fly ball ratios have dropped. If I am correct in my observation, that would align with a deaden ball is a dead and ball as an explanation. Edited June 13, 2022 by sabretooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Sorry for the typos, I was dictating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 FWIW...Hinch's W-L record with the Tigers is slightly better than he did with two partial seasons with Arizona. https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/hincha.01.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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