Mr.TaterSalad Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 It would behoove Biden to show up at Kellogg's and John Deere and be on the picket line. That's one thing a guy like Bernie understands. When Verizon workers were on strike in 2016 in NYC Bernie went out of his way, showed up, stood on a soap box and gave a ra-ra speech to the Verizon union workers. He did the same thing that year in Iowa for a company during the Caucuses. Biden needs to be out in front of the cameras, in the heart of white working class America, showing solidarity with these workers. Optics go a long way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Kind of interesting how Democrats have to tour every rural county but you will never see a Republican step foot inside the city of Detroit. Neither have to, would be nice if both did though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, oblong said: the problem is that plays into the "dementia" angle and "who is running the country" charge. Biden needs to show that he's the boss and the one doing everything. I think especially getting Obama out there plays into the criticism. Biden needs to project strength. I read a rumor that Joe pooped his paint while visiting with the Pope. I am sure it is not true but the Trumpers will take that as fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, oblong said: the problem is that plays into the "dementia" angle and "who is running the country" charge. Biden needs to show that he's the boss and the one doing everything. I think especially getting Obama out there plays into the criticism. Biden needs to project strength. I also think it goes against Biden's strengths... he's a pretty good retail politician who does pretty well on the road. He's not a soaring orator like Obama. Edited November 8, 2021 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I also think it goes against Biden's strengths... he's a pretty good retail politician who does pretty well on the road. He's not a soaring orator like Obama. I agree, he’s good in small groups. There aren’t enough ice cream shots in rural areas. Or maybe too many and that could be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, oblong said: I think in general Joe needs to get out more. Seems like the only time I see him is he's walking to and from a podium and not taking questions. Not saying he has to do Trump style rallies but he should be out there more in the southern states where it's nice letting the country know he's the President. Use the office with all that goes with it, Air Force One, Marine One, The Beast (limo). I don't think Joe's mental acuity is as debilitated as Trump's, not by a long shot. But I'm not sure I want nearly-82-year-old Joe to be my main alternative to Rump in 2024. Edited November 8, 2021 by chasfh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, chasfh said: I don't think Joe's mental acuity is as debilitated as Trump's, not by a long shot. But I'm not sure I want nearly-82-year-old Joe to be my main alternative to Rump in 2024. I would prefer someone under 70 but the alternative has to be a viable candidate among the dem caucus. Seems like everyone’s got a beef. It’s why I called Joe the Applebee’s candidate. Nobody’s first choice but in an emergency it will have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigerbomb13 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: I’m sure Stan forgot how to invest again, just like he did pre-Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Cat Gentleman Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: I’m sure Stan forgot how to invest again, just like he did pre-Trump. No more $15k vacations for him, I guess. 😢 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: No more $15k vacations for him, I guess. 😢 Teary-face emoji. Nice touch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 17 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I read a rumor that Joe pooped his paint while visiting with the Pope. I am sure it is not true but the Trumpers will take that as fact. According to my newsfeed he was just explaining the benefits of natural gas to the Duchess of Cornwall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.TaterSalad Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 That's great to hear, but the President himself needs to hit the trail and get into working class, rural, and urban communities. They need to get him up on TV with Super PAC ads touting this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Risky. He looks tired all the time and does not enunciate well at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I would get Harris out there. If Biden isn't running again, better start marketing Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 42 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I would get Harris out there. If Biden isn't running again, better start marketing Harris. i hope biden doesnt run again. he is too old. he did his job for his country and beat trump. time to retire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, buddha said: i hope biden doesnt run again. he is too old. he did his job for his country and beat trump. time to retire. I hope he does run again and I don't care if it's a Weekend at Bernie's situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I hope he does run again and I don't care if it's a Weekend at Bernie's situation. i hope the democrats can do better than biden. i think they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, buddha said: i hope the democrats can do better than biden. i think they can. I don't. I think he's the most electable right now. Trump is still lurking. I don't care if they have to prop him up and Harris runs everything behind the scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, buddha said: i hope the democrats can do better than biden. i think they can. I know this is a terrible thing to say well into the 21st Century, but I'm an old man with a bit of leeway, so I will: if the Democrats run anyone with an identifiable minority trait—woman, person of color, non-Christian, non-heteronormative, certainly any combination of two or more—they will probably lose. If there were any one candidate with one or more of those traits whom I think would have any decent chance to beat Trump, it would be Al Franken. I can think of no one else at this time. No woman. No person of color. Not Chuck Schumer. Not Pete Buttigieg. No one. At least not as of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: I would get Harris out there. If Biden isn't running again, better start marketing Harris. I don't think there is any chance Biden will run again. I also don't see Harris as the nominee either although she will give it a try. She isn't well liked and right now she's the perfect VP for Biden. If Republicans get control of the House and Senate they'll never impeach Biden because Harris is a worse option. If dems can't come up with someone better in 24 they are in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 22 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: It would behoove Biden to show up at Kellogg's and John Deere and be on the picket line.... Just tell him there's a free ice cream for him and brandon and he'll be there.😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Archie said: I don't think there is any chance Biden will run again. I also don't see Harris as the nominee either although she will give it a try. She isn't well liked and right now she's the perfect VP for Biden. If Republicans get control of the House and Senate they'll never impeach Biden because Harris is a worse option. If dems can't come up with someone better in 24 they are in trouble. I think this is largely true (I think they will impeach though) but a lot will depend on whether Trump is actually running. I am assuming he is, and I think that alone could be a rallying effect around the Democratic candidate. Edited November 9, 2021 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, chasfh said: I know this is a terrible thing to say well into the 21st Century, but I'm an old man with a bit of leeway, so I will: if the Democrats run anyone with an identifiable minority trait—woman, person of color, non-Christian, non-heteronormative, certainly any combination of two or more—they will probably lose. If there were any one candidate with one or more of those traits whom I think would have any decent chance to beat Trump, it would be Al Franken. I can think of no one else at this time. No woman. No person of color. Not Chuck Schumer. Not Pete Buttigieg. No one. At least not as of today. the last two times the democrats had a ticket with a "person of color" on it, they won. the only time they didnt, they lost. the democrats have some time. buttigieg seems like a good candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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