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They also get burned every time they jump into the drafting and developing of players to fix their problems. They also get burned every time they jump into the trading of players to fix their problems. I think their problem may be with the people who are doing the jumping into things, not the things that they are jumping into.

A lot of people will blame Soto but those three runs are 100% on mismanagement and Hinch. Once the bases were loaded Hinch should of had Vest or Chaffin ready to come in and Soto sat down. Did Hinch really think Soto was going to find his form after 25 pitches. He didn't look good from the first batter.

The clock has run out for me. If this doesn't look different by over the weekend, Coolbaugh needs to be gone at minimum. If your GM can't pull that trigger, him as well. If the manager wants to go to the wall for his coach, so be it, him too.

The wife who only hears me groan when they lose and bitch when they suck thought that we could organize a big event at Comerica with all her buddies when we visit Detroit in July. I put the brakes on that noise about a week or so ago. "They just are not an MLB baseball team right now and I wouldn't want to waste our money on them" Mind you that I'm already paying MLB.tv and Directv to watch them.

Meadows with a HR. W. Perez playing for Erie tonight. I guess he got promoted. Wenceel finishes 2/4 BB. Nice start to a new gig.

You don't need to create a new thread every time a thought enters your mind. There are so many threads now, I can never find the thread with the topic I am looking for. I would appreciate an update on the Tigers record when Reyes starts though.

going for 3rd with 2 outs....

That's like the Port-A-Potty vacuum guy saying "I need someone to take my route next week).

Looks like people in this forum are increasingly hopping aboard the First A.J. Hinch and the Horse He Rode In On train. I'm definitely not there yet, but I won't argue against it, because it's so hard to defend the historically-bad results so far. But I will say this: if this organization fires Hinch and all his coaches while keeping Al Avila, especially as the season is still in progress, that will be the final confirmation that this organization has no plan; that they never had a serious plan in place; and frankly, don't care enough about putting a consistent winning product on the field to put a well-thought-out plan in place and see it through. At that point, it would be obvious that they appear to care about winning only to the degree that they can do the bare minimum they can get away with to have some winning drop into their lap. That's what I would take away from a midseason firing of A.J. Hinch and coach(es) TBD. Speaking only for myself, if/once that happens, I would be hard-pressed to care about the direction of the Detroit Tigers organization anymore. I would still care enough to root for them in individual games I see, as I do with the Lions, Pistons or Red Wings, because of the city on the uni. But I will have no remaining faith that they'll ever be able to figure out how to get us back to contending for the playoffs consistently, except to luck into it by throwing a little money at it, a la the Papa Doc days. The only thing that's missing from that era is the one guy at the top who knows what he's doing who can make that happen.

This is pretty bad. All the life they had last season with AJ constantly putting the other team on the defensive is gone. The hitters are cold, the team is passive, AJ is passive, the team is boring and predictable. A couple guys did get hits tonight before they were down in the count, but it's tiny scraps. They need some new voices talking to them. I'm becoming very skeptical a whole team can slump this long without there being a systemic problem.

Now here's the flip side to the Soto hate I feel responsible for starting here tonight: Soto got the L in the box score, but final strike call notwithstanding, the Tigers hitters really should be the ones wearing this loss.

Well at least they had a nice game of ping pong and nobody got mad at each other in the meeting.

Daz can keep his abs, but get Robbie ABs lol

javy lol

Turn on the game a few minutes late and the game is over already. No way this team scores more than 3 runs.

You guys are so negative. Look at the positive side that we don't have to wait until the top of the 9th for the Tigers to lose the game.

do we expect riley to be better than tork? maybe a little better? probably not too much better. hopefully he's the next willie mays, but chances are he struggles. regardless, its good to have a reason to actually watch.

People think it's over. And....it's not.

If only there was a clean way to make massive amounts of electricity where we'd already have let's say 50+ years of experience with it.

I’m halfway between being excited to actually watch this dumpster fire of a team and having to worry about him getting Coolbaughed.

lol!

amusing

Our buddy Lynn Henning calling for Al Avilia being fired in today’s paper is hopefully the beginning of the media onslaught.

A.J. Hinch is an authoritarian who is powerful enough that he can limit how much General Manager Avila and Owner Ilitch can speak to the press during the season. Hinch is also a weakling in the clubhouse who was passive in Houston while the team cheated in front of him and he doesn’t seem to be much different now. Yup, a guy like that is definitely terrible, all right.

This above quote sums up where I am at. It has been a very long time since they have shown the ability to develop players. Since the evidence is overwhelming they cannot develop a position player, and they cannot identify good trade or free agent fits, I anticipate that we are are 7 years away from anything resembling a playoff team.

clemens was raking at triple a and everyone wanted him to come up. he did and he predictably sucks. they dont have a ton of minor league talent and the high end talent they do have is injured. that's really the story of this year: injuries. i didnt expect them to be above 500 this year, but was looking forward to miggy chasing 3000 and watching the young players play. unfortunately injuries have taken a lot of the fun out of that. sure, it would be nice to see them win, but i wasnt expecting much. but not seeing greene, mize, and manning has made this season really boring. other than skubal, this season has been a total loss.

This team needs a Billy Martin postgame speech. That would take place after he flips the postgame meal table and kicks the food against all the lockers in the room. Then comes the speech. The speech would consists of a few select words that would be repeated over and over and over. I’ll bet this team couldn’t survive a Billy Martin postgame demonstration and speech. They’d all run to the IL and request a trip to Toledo. Kind of tells you where this team is right now. They feel good about things and they have the ping pong tournament going on and all the while, they totally suck at what they’re getting paid to do, top to bottom with a very few exceptions. I bet Hinch picks their balls up when they hit the floor.

In her defense, she is from Green Bay, so following a team like this is hard for her to fathom.

Me: (Tells wife stat of the day, above) Wife: “Wow.” Me: “Yeah, Tigers suck.” Wife: “Maybe you suck for following them.” Me: “ … “

I do think a lot of <5 year-olds have natural immunity at this point... It sure sounds like a lot of my friends who have kids in day care that caught a breakthrough case... the kid didn't get it at the same time. Or they tested the kid for antibodies and they had it. Having said that, I'd definitely get them a shot, unless a doctor gave me a damn good reason not to. Still, fuck DeSantis and his hand-picked antivax surgeon general.

cute result. Fed ups the funds rates, and all T bond yields actually go down the next day. Goes to show a) the big hike was already fully anticipated b) Longer term buyers don't expect this inflation to last. https://home.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/TextView?type=daily_treasury_yield_curve&field_tdr_date_value_month=202206

Best summer city in North America. Literally anywhere else is probably a good choice.

I'm hesitant because recency bias is a real thing, but honestly I'm not sure I've hated a Tiger team more than this one. Maybe hate is too strong of a word, but I at least hate watching this stuff more than the others... And I was here for 2003 and 2008 too. I'm happy for the individual performances and growth of players like Skubal, Brieske, Faedo, Lange, Vest, etc. But the rest of this product largely sucks to watch.

Terrible call to end the game, I would be more upset but lets face it all it prevented was the Rangers pitcher from throwing another pitch and seeing Hasse hack at a slider off the plate.

Sounds like they should have discussed ignoring Coolbaugh at their "players only" meeting lol

I'm serious, this sounds like total bull crap to me. No hitter can divide pitches into 7 zones before deciding to commit. No wonder they are all late all the time. That's a recipe for paralysis. See the ball. Hit the ball. That's hard enough for any major leaguer without extra layers of embellishment..

You have to understand the mindset. They are saved, they are absolved, they are the holy warriors for the 2nd coming and any deal they make with the Devil to get to last the Last Judgment quicker is pre-sanctified. After all, that's half the attraction of the theology in the first place. The US conservative version of "Liberation" theology! It's just Aleister Crowley's "do what thou wilt", but make sure to say "Praise Jesus" and add an "Amen" at the end.

He was on the covid list. Probably recuperating instead of working out and needs to get back in game shape. Much ado about nothing.

Forgot to copy the link and now I can't find the tweet but anyway I saw a tweet that said Campos was hitting like a .950 OPS in June in low A. He just turned 19 the other day and this is his first full season of pro ball so that's a good sign he is already starting to pick things up. It would be nice if we could finally hit on international market.

Not useful.

I love the post that one of the commentators of the article put, to paraphrase "The first question the NBA should use in their concussion protocol is 'Do you want to play for the Kings'"

so ivey is smarter than we may have thought.

Sure. I was just commenting out of my sense (after having lived there for a time) that unlike Detroit where we tend to have an inferiority complex about acknowledging the limits our market will support, they almost treat it as part of their civic virtue.