gehringer_2 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, buddha said: or perhaps a few of the players didnt pay attention? how close do you pay attention when new work rules are announced? and how soon do you forget them? a lot of employees dont really pay attention. i dont know what the nfl did or didnt say, but the fact that a few kids out of college didnt know the rule (or claims they were never told) doesnt surprise me. stepping back from the case details though, it *is* a stupid set of rules. What possible difference does it make to anything *where* you are when you place a bet? The wager either is, or is not an issue. Nothing could be more immaterial to any possible consequence of the wager than where it was placed. Maybe the basic illogic of the rules had something to do with why guys may have found them hard to make sense of or take seriously. Edited June 22, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: stepping back from the case details though, it *is* a stupid set of rules. What possible difference does it make to anything *where* you are when you place a bet? The wager either is, or is not an issue. Nothing could be more immaterial to any possible consequence of the wager than where it was placed. Maybe the basic illogic of the rules had something to do with why guys may have found them hard to make sense of or take seriously. i think youre giving young football players a little too much credit in their contemplation of the basis for rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 If it can alter the trajectory of my career...I'm very aware because I'm made aware clearly and definitively by my employer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: i think youre giving young football players a little too much credit in their contemplation of the basis for rules. IDK, I'd wager that a lot of these young athletes know a lot more about gambling than the average crossection of the population, and I'd probably do it without giving a thought to where I was..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Crazy!!! So... Holmes knows what he is doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Crazy!!! So... Holmes knows what he is doing? i hope so. but none of those guys other than goff have done anything yet. and stafford won a super bowl. lots of potential for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 13 hours ago, buddha said: i hope so. but none of those guys other than goff have done anything yet. and stafford won a super bowl. lots of potential for sure. Quoted for Truth. There's LOTS of potential there, no doubt. But so far it's only potential. Because this trade was so involved with draft picks it needs to be grades the same way drafts are graded: After 3 years or so. That said, given how well Goff has played (at least last year) I would say just one of those players becoming a star player makes it worth it to us, and there's definitely potential for more than one of those to reach star status. I will say the "Stafford won a SB" part isn't really apples to apples... what I mean is if the Lions don't win a SB in the next 3-5 years that doesn't mean the Lions lost the trade. Football is too much of a team sport and depends on too many factors to say that one key player (or even three key players) are the sole reason you win or don't win a SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I can see it now. Five episodes of Aaron Rodgers doing things for attention and then immediately claiming he doesn't want the attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Yet again it looks like they've unjustly excluded @buddha from entering into the competition. Surprised the footage of security dragging him out didn't make the cut for this video. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 21 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: Yet again it looks like they've unjustly excluded @buddha from entering into the competition. Surprised the footage of security dragging him out didn't make the cut for this video. 😉 The Lions are well aware of Buddha's blatant hatred of Goff. Goff veto'd him from having a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, RedRamage said: The Lions are well aware of Buddha's blatant hatred of Goff. Goff veto'd him from having a shot. I thought it was the lipstick. Or lack thereof... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I thought it was the lipstick. Or lack thereof... i probably wore the wrong shade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Well, you’re an autumn, there’s only so much you can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I heard Becky tell Sydney that Melissa overheard Aubrey in the bathroom saying that Buddha thought Lisa’s dancing was tacky and this team doesn’t need that kind of gossip or negativity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 that's the last time i confide in aubrey. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number20 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Mike Martz on Jahmyr Gibbs (33rdTeam). I imagine most of you have seen this by now, but for those who haven't... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 On 6/27/2023 at 5:32 PM, MichiganCardinal said: Yet again it looks like they've unjustly excluded @buddha from entering into the competition. Surprised the footage of security dragging him out didn't make the cut for this video. 😉 I have a friend who use to be a chearleader for the Lions. I didn't see her in this video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Demetrius Taylor was the identity of the (hopefully last) Lions player. He was released back in May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 How does the NFL discover the identity of the players who made bets? Does the NFL supply private identifying information about all NFL players to the sports books and require monthly reports on betting activity as a condition of partnerships with the NFL? Are the players reported by earnest whistleblowers at the sports books who are concerned about the integrity of the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Jason_R said: How does the NFL discover the identity of the players who made bets? Does the NFL supply private identifying information about all NFL players to the sports books and require monthly reports on betting activity as a condition of partnerships with the NFL? Are the players reported by earnest whistleblowers at the sports books who are concerned about the integrity of the NFL? My understanding is that the sports books are providing the info to the NFL. I believe that this is an agreement between the NFL and the sports book to do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 19 hours ago, RedRamage said: My understanding is that the sports books are providing the info to the NFL. I believe that this is an agreement between the NFL and the sports book to do this. Could this theoretically allow someone at the sports books to try get rich quick by providing information on certain players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I still don't understand the theory behind making betting in a certain *place* against the rules. The NFL appears to be the only sports org with that twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 hours ago, djhutch said: Could this theoretically allow someone at the sports books to try get rich quick by providing information on certain players? This has been my issue all along. Unless there are massive checks in place, someone is using this info to play (or change) the odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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