RandyMarsh Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33297949/nfl-draft-which-teams-gotten-best-value-2012-rank-all-32 Behind a paywall but they used actual value of the player over what the pick is expected to bring and the Lions are 18th over the past 10 years. Not good but not as bad as I expected. Their best draft according to that metric is 2013 where we got Ansah, Slay,Warford, Riddick and Martin. Btw Seattle was number 1 thanks in large part to Russell Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33297949/nfl-draft-which-teams-gotten-best-value-2012-rank-all-32 Behind a paywall but they used actual value of the player over what the pick is expected to bring and the Lions are 18th over the past 10 years. Not good but not as bad as I expected. Their best draft according to that metric is 2013 where we got Ansah, Slay,Warford, Riddick and Martin. Btw Seattle was number 1 thanks in large part to Russell Wilson. Don't know if we should be concerned that the Rams were worse during that time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Don't know if we should be concerned that the Rams were worse during that time frame. Looking back through it and I noticed that 4 of our last 5 least valuable picks came in the 2nd round, also couldn't help but notice that Levi was almost as bad last year as Tavai was for his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley70 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) If Levi busts at least it won't because we took a guy everyone else thought was a 4th or 5th rounder in the second. In fairness he was hurt last year from camp on and had missed the 2020 covid season. Hopefully he comes around this year. Edited April 22, 2022 by Stanley70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33297949/nfl-draft-which-teams-gotten-best-value-2012-rank-all-32 Behind a paywall but they used actual value of the player over what the pick is expected to bring and the Lions are 18th over the past 10 years. Not good but not as bad as I expected. Their best draft according to that metric is 2013 where we got Ansah, Slay,Warford, Riddick and Martin. Btw Seattle was number 1 thanks in large part to Russell Wilson. bob quinn had no positive value drafts. mayhew had a great draft in 2013, which is all of detroit's "points" except for a few from last year (which is too early to judge) and a couple from larry warford in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 https://www.nfl.com/news/seven-round-2022-nfl-mock-draft-round-1-cowboys-steelers-trade-up LOL Chad Reuter doesn't even bother trying with the Lions pick. Mocking Kenny Pickett to the Lions at #2 is beyond dumb and ridiculous. First off, it doesn't even look like the Lions are taking a QB at #2, but if they did, it would almost assuredly be Malik Willis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 I did an entire 32 team 1st round mock draft. I tried drafting based on team needs and reports that have come out about certain players going to certain teams. We'll see how off base I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hongbit Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I can’t see any scenario where they trade him to the Packers. AFC Jets and their buddy Salah seem like their best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Adam with some deep insider info. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I wonder if the trading back might make more sense with the 32nd pick. Say a team wants a QB at 32 for the 5th yr contract. If someone offered the lions their 2nd this year and 2nd next year, would it make sense? Peter Kings article this morning mentioned that scenario. In this example the falcons traded up to 32 and the lions received picked 43 and a 2nd in 2023. I’d be ok with that, depending on the board. King also expects the Jags to take Walker number 1. Walker is now the betting favorite in a number of places to go first overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 If there is a receiver the Lions really want at 32, I would stay. These receiver contracts are getting out of control so I would want that 5th year option on a receiver as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 So True 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 This draft does seem different. The last time the Lions drafted 2nd, Suh was definitely considered a dominant player and Calvin Johnson was considered a generational talent. Don't get the same vibe with any of these player. Sewell would probably be the best player in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Most around here have said the Walker to jags rumors were just clickbait. Now Vegas has him with the best odds and more legit sources are coming Out and saying he might be the guy. I would be thrilled if the Lions were able to get Hutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 The best thing that can happen for the Lions is that Jacksonville takes Neal or Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 22 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: https://www.nfl.com/news/seven-round-2022-nfl-mock-draft-round-1-cowboys-steelers-trade-up LOL Chad Reuter doesn't even bother trying with the Lions pick. Mocking Kenny Pickett to the Lions at #2 is beyond dumb and ridiculous. First off, it doesn't even look like the Lions are taking a QB at #2, but if they did, it would almost assuredly be Malik Willis. I saw that too and immediately dismissed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: Most around here have said the Walker to jags rumors were just clickbait. Now Vegas has him with the best odds and more legit sources are coming Out and saying he might be the guy. I would be thrilled if the Lions were able to get Hutch. I think betting odds aren't always a good indicator as Vegas is more interested in making money rather than being right. The odds are adjusted to give themselves the lowest payout. That said there does appear to be more and more smoke around Walker to jags... and this close to the draft I think there's probably a little less click bait vs. wanting to have an accurate mock that writers can point to to show how smart they are. If I was a betting man I'd still bet on Hutch to jags, but I would also be thrilled if he fell to #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The best thing that can happen for the Lions is that Jacksonville takes Neal or Walker. No, the best thing would be talking Walker. If they take Neal then the Lions had the choice between Walker and Hutch and there will be many people complaining that they took the wrong one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TP_Fan said: I wonder if the trading back might make more sense with the 32nd pick. Say a team wants a QB at 32 for the 5th yr contract. If someone offered the lions their 2nd this year and 2nd next year, would it make sense? Peter Kings article this morning mentioned that scenario. In this example the falcons traded up to 32 and the lions received picked 43 and a 2nd in 2023. I’d be ok with that, depending on the board. King also expects the Jags to take Walker number 1. Walker is now the betting favorite in a number of places to go first overall. Fans overvalue 2nd round picks. About half never amount to anything. If there is a person you even just a bit like just stay there. Picking up a second rounder to move back 10 spots, often only means you end up to 2 nothings. Edited April 25, 2022 by KL2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, TP_Fan said: King also expects the Jags to take Walker number 1. Walker is now the betting favorite in a number of places to go first overall. The Lions may get Hutchinson, if they want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I wonder if there will be wild celebration in the Lions draft room like last year if Jacksonville passes on Hutchinson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, TP_Fan said: I wonder if the trading back might make more sense with the 32nd pick. Say a team wants a QB at 32 for the 5th yr contract. If someone offered the lions their 2nd this year and 2nd next year, would it make sense? Peter Kings article this morning mentioned that scenario. In this example the falcons traded up to 32 and the lions received picked 43 and a 2nd in 2023. I’d be ok with that, depending on the board. King also expects the Jags to take Walker number 1. Walker is now the betting favorite in a number of places to go first overall. I mentioned earlier that I'm a little worried about Hutch's performance in the Orange Bowl. Virtually no pressures at all - but I do think he's a culture fit with the Lions, & I believe this coaching staff will get the most out of his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Iirc shortly after the game somebody at the Athletic went back and watched the tape of Hutch against Georgia and he came to the conclusion that he didn't play as bad as it appeared. Apparently Georgia went all out in game planning to neutralize him. I'll have to go try to find the article to see exactly what the conclusion was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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