Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 I did an updated full round mock because draft week is the most fun you can have as a Lions fan. It's all down hill from here, but let's hope Holmes changes that for once. I stuck with Hutch and Cine for the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 Whose your "if the Lions draft this guy in the first or second round" I will be upset and/or disappointed? For me it's Kyle Hamilton. While I won't get mad about it because I still trust Brad Holmes and I'm tired of being an angry, negative fan all the time, Hamilton would be pretty deflating. Knowing they could have taken one of Hutch/Thibs/Walker and they took a slower-than-average Safety instead would really throw cold water on my enjoyment of the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 For me it's one of the QBs outside of Willis, I mean I don't want any of them but I'll be ok with Willis cause of his upside, the rest I have no interest in as the way I see it I don't see any of them ending up any better than what Goff can bring us down the road anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Don't know who this guy is, but seems to be a little smoke around these rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Whose your "if the Lions draft this guy in the first or second round" I will be upset and/or disappointed? For me it's Kyle Hamilton. While I won't get mad about it because I still trust Brad Holmes and I'm tired of being an angry, negative fan all the time, Hamilton would be pretty deflating. Knowing they could have taken one of Hutch/Thibs/Walker and they took a slower-than-average Safety instead would really throw cold water on my enjoyment of the draft. at #2? gardner, hamilton, or walker. at #32 or #34? karlaftis or christian walker. but i trust brad holmes more than i trust my uneducated opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Don't know who this guy is, but seems to be a little smoke around these rumors. A blast from the past. He used to post here. Edited April 28, 2022 by Hongbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) I’m still hoping that when roger calls out the lions pick at 32 it will be Malik Willis. He might fall. Edited April 28, 2022 by TP_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Whose your "if the Lions draft this guy in the first or second round" I will be upset and/or disappointed? For me it's Kyle Hamilton. While I won't get mad about it because I still trust Brad Holmes and I'm tired of being an angry, negative fan all the time, Hamilton would be pretty deflating. Knowing they could have taken one of Hutch/Thibs/Walker and they took a slower-than-average Safety instead would really throw cold water on my enjoyment of the draft. Gardner or Hamilton at 2 Any QB other than Willis at 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 hours ago, KL2 said: I just wanted the a How about this draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Subject to some changes before tomorrow, but this is probably my final version: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Lets say, hypothetically, that the Jags take Walker (which seems increasingly likely), how would you guys feel if the Lions took Thibodeaux over Hutch? I've seen some rumors that they value KT higher than Hutch. Personally, I find Thibs to be the more "exciting" pick, a swing for a more dynamic player and personality but also much higher risk. The Lions are starved for starpower and Thibs is the one player (on the defensive side) with real star potential so I'd be cool with the risk but I bet that a lot of Lions fans would riot. Edited April 28, 2022 by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 8 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: If Walker does go 1 that is a legendary meteoric rise, 2 or 3 months ago Im not sure he was even if the top 10 according to the national mocks. Of course the national big boards may not mirror NFL team big boards so for all we know Walker couldve been near the top on those from the start and his combine numbers just solidified that for teams. It's crazy. I remember thinking during the college football playoff that I'd be happy with Walker..... at 32 then after the combine, he makes an unprecedented rise up the draft charts based purely on his athletic grades. I think that's due to two things, no real elite prospects in this draft and the really high value on athletic edge rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, NYLion said: Lets say, hypothetically, that the Jags take Walker (which seems increasingly likely), how would you guys feel if the Lions took Thibodeaux over Hutch? I've seen some rumors that they value KT higher than Hutch. Personally, I find Thibs to be the more "exciting" pick, a swing for a more dynamic player and personality but also much higher risk. I wouldn’t mind it. Coming into this whole thing, Thibs was the universal #1. In fact, he was the universal #1 for a while, until everyone started overanalyzing everything (as happens every draft). If Holmes and Campbell are not worried about all the off the field rumors, and Sewell gave them a positive report, then I think it makes sense. By many accounts, Thibs has a higher ceiling than Hutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I wouldn’t mind it. Coming into this whole thing, Thibs was the universal #1. In fact, he was the universal #1 for a while, until everyone started overanalyzing everything (as happens every draft). If Holmes and Campbell are not worried about all the off the field rumors, and Sewell gave them a positive report, then I think it makes sense. By many accounts, Thibs has a higher ceiling than Hutch. Yeah, agreed with all this. Plus his big personality will keep things entertaining and my god do we need some entertainment in Lions football. Of course, if he doesn't perform on the field none of that matters but it's just an added factor with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 either hutch or thibs is fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: Subject to some changes before tomorrow, but this is probably my final version: This would be a setback. I don’t mind trading back, but the 2nd pick can’t be KT when hutch is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 7 hours ago, TP_Fan said: This would be a setback. I don’t mind trading back, but the 2nd pick can’t be KT when hutch is there. Some say to go with the guy with the longer arms. That would be KT. It's close between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 21 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: Decent blocking TEs practically grow on trees. They’re almost never one-on-one with the defender they’re blocking at the point of attack and if they are one-on-one downfield, it’s in a similar position as a wide receiver would be in. Even if the Lions are considering using more six-lineman fronts with a TE instead of an OT (like they did some with Matt Nelson last year), any draftable TE prospect should be able to fill that role. There is no reason to expend a draft selection solely for a blocking TE when they’ll be playing aside Sewell and Decker. If blocking is all we need, we should look to sign a quality UDFA or draft a 7th rounder like Noah Gindorff or Cole Turner. That said, I think having a good blocking TE who can also be a red zone threat would be a great compliment to Hock. I don’t think we should look to take a TE before 97. At 97 and beyond though, if Otton/Ruckert/Ferguson are there, they can be a really strong addition to the offense. I disagree. Many teams, including the Lions, use tackles as the blocking te. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 10 hours ago, RedRamage said: How about this draft? Let's hope they don't have to play Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jason_R said: Let's hope they don't have to play Georgia. Well, not Georgia, but... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Cruzer1 said: I disagree. Many teams, including the Lions, use tackles as the blocking te. That’s what I mean though. Matt Nelson filled that role last year really well for the Lions. We acquired him as a 2019 UDFA. If we are just looking for someone to fill that role, we shouldn’t look higher than a 6th round pick. If we are looking for a red zone threat though, I’m perfectly okay with 3rd round or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 10 hours ago, TP_Fan said: This would be a setback. I don’t mind trading back, but the 2nd pick can’t be KT when hutch is there. Before the Ohio State game, KT was universally crowned as the best edge rusher in the class. Since then, his drop in perception - however small it may be - seems to have come from rumors and speculation rather than performance. It’s not as if he’s been injured or if some bombshell exploit has come out. It’s been behind the scenes people throwing it at the wall about him not loving football. And if that’s evaluated to be nonsense, I see no reason to not continue to value him above Hutch. Realistically, I don’t think there is a “wrong” answer in any of Walker, Hutch, and Thibs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Before the Ohio State game, KT was universally crowned as the best edge rusher in the class. Since then, his drop in perception - however small it may be - seems to have come from rumors and speculation rather than performance. It’s not as if he’s been injured or if some bombshell exploit has come out. It’s been behind the scenes people throwing it at the wall about him not loving football. And if that’s evaluated to be nonsense, I see no reason to not continue to value him above Hutch. Realistically, I don’t think there is a “wrong” answer in any of Walker, Hutch, and Thibs. Not to mention that Thibs by far has the highest ceiling. Whether he gets there, who knows. But, don't make it like Hutch is significantly better. He's got a higher floor for sure, but also a lower ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I want to see Thibodaux taken over Hutchinson just for the meltdown that is ensured to happen by some Lions fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley70 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 At #2 I am ok with Aiden, Thibs or Walker. None of them will probably get the to JJ Watt level but should be very good. Do not want anyone else. At #32 if a surprise guy drops like Wyatt, Lloyd or Dean that would be my top outcome. Otherwise a trade back a few spots would be nice or one of the safeties with Hill or Cine being my favorites. Do not want a QB or another slot receiver. At #34 same as 32 basically. Need to get a safety with one of these picks. Do not want a TE. At #66 they need to focus on the spots they haven't; hit yet. Should be a few linebackers available if they didn't get one earlier. Do not want O-line yet. After that it should be BPA and i hope they get a decent TE prospect at some point. Hock is in his last year and had had numerous injury issues each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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