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So the Monday after Father's day my grandpa went shopping at Jos A Bank in Birmingham. Afterwards he forgot where he had parked and was wandering around looking for his car when a lady carrying a baby saw him and offered to help. After driving him around for a while without finding the car my grandpa said to just drop him off so she could take the baby home. She refused to just leave him walking around during the heat wave so she took him to her house where her husband was working from home. The husband then drove my grandpa around to look for his car, but they still couldn't find it. My grandpa had left his phone in the car so eventually they called my uncle who was able to give them the location of the car. Anyways, it turns out that it was Scott Harris and his wife who drove my grandpa around Birmingham to help him find his car.

did he find out who we were getting for Erod?

The depressing thing to me isn't Biden's slowing down itself... it's the effect it could have on voters. I personally don't care or think it has to affect his performance as older people DO slow down but their mind still works. That's what matters. Our commander in chief doesn't get on a horse and lead troops to battle. They make decisions based on advisers. Biden could be in a wheelchair with a feeding tube and non verbal and I'd vote for him over Trump. There's still no comparison. It's all in the context of the election results for me.

This campaign has been the most low energy campaign of my lifetime, most people seem to avoid the topic like the plague, but the thing I hear over and over again to the extent that the topic comes up is "is this really the best we have to offer" and "we need younger candidates" I'm sympathetic to MB's points, I think Biden and his administration have done a lot of good things in their time in office. But the job of governing and the job of running a Presidential campaign are two different things.... especially at his age he had to demonstrate that he was up to another four years, and it didn't happen last night. That's just reality.... I think we need to see what actual hard data shows, and we will get that in due time. But it's 100% legitimate to have this conversation IMO.

A lot of rumors that Lebron is sleeping with his newest teammates mother.

It has an effect on me. I don't want him to be President if he can't communicate sufficiently. It's just that the alternative is so horrible that there is no other choice for me. All it takes is to alienate a few thousand swing state voters and the election is lost.

if they want to cut salary they do. the pistons did it last year when they traded up for sasser, iirc.

Just remember, though, that we’re not voting just for the man at the top of the ticket. We’re also voting for everyone he brings into the job with him. Maybe that’s something the Democrats should spend some time highlighting.

I heard that Scott Harris had turned the organization into a player development machine. That is not a sarcastic knock against Harris. It's just that fans overrate their team's prospects all the time and there is a lot of luck involved in drafting and development. Even if you do things right. it's really hard to build a core

Tim Miller on point

The inability to push back on Donald Trump when he made mistakes is what got me. A sharper candidate could have drew blood on Donald Trump last night.

Biden could be a Weekend With Bernie corpse and I'd vote for him over scumbag Trump.

He's probably faced better lineups in the PCL.

They might as well play Ibanez full time. His split this season against RHP is terrible but for his career he is 652 which beats Kreidler or McKinstry. Likewise Canha. His career split against RHP is still a better option better than Baddoo. You don't HAVE to play bad platoon players when they are worse than the non-platoon options - it's just dumb. You don't need to play bad players to "keep guys sharp" who are no real part of your plans short or long term. It's OK to have a guy on the bench that is only going to play if lightning strikes. Or rotate guys you need on bench for emergency backfill through Toledo so they get periodic playing time. Again, no law says those guys have to get regular MLB PAs.

The other old guy will be planning a national emergency on day one if elected. These are the two choices we have. How many people in this country, and these are the two choices we have for the presidency?

Crazy stat of the night. Every 2024 second round pick has been traded at least once.

Likely every other team in baseball would have taken Tork 1-1 also, and if he was hitting and fielding like he appeared capable, you’d be fine with it.

Comerica Park - Detroit, MI

Just saying, 'IF' this something like the Tigers might seek, this is where adding a prospect (again NOT top 5) might help out.

Manning no hits through five innings and 87 pitches.

Lee back in the Seawolves lineup tonight.

The Sharks didn't extend Zadina a qualifying offer, talk about fumbling the bag betting on himself and terminating the Wings deal. If I ever start feeling too good about myself I'll bring my Zadina jersey out of the closet to remind myself that I am a moron.

I understand this is your opinion, it just has no basis in reality. It would have no effect on Tork, would not change anyone’s opinion of his value or availability, and it surely shouldn’t have any impact on draft strategy. No one cares about crap like that. Kuntz is likely a couple of years away, and if they both reach their ceilings that would be a fortuitous scenario and they’d make it work.

Steve Kemp for Chet Lemon

i dont see the point to that trade from detroit or edmonton's point of view. youre up against the cap so you take larkin and seider who will cost more than draisatl? how does that help? if youre edmonton you have to re-sign him or deal him for another "star" like say, makar or maybe quinn hughes. if not, then what makes anyone think mcdavid will re-up? larkin is a nice player but he doesnt move the needle for mcdavid. what they need to do is move nurse's contract which....good luck.

I can’t understand how anybody can sit through one of these so called “debates.” Joe Biden has been in Washington for more than 50 years. Trump has been as high a profile figure in politics as anyone for eight years now. Other than dodging questions and blaming one another, what is there to it? There is nothing new. The public records speak louder than their prepared rhetoric.

I understand that, but if voters get the impression that Biden is not mentally fit and is going downhill, I fear that is going to really hurt voter turnout. And it wouldn't be a matter of bypassing Biden. They would have to convince him to drop out due to a "medical problem". I am not saying that SHOULD happen, but Biden's speaking problems have grown into a significant concern. It's no longer just a Fox News sound clip.

The debate was not an isolated incident. It was his worst moment of the campaign but it was more a confimation of a pattern than a surprise.

A few of us here have still been in touch with Walt via computer sim baseball. The league is still in a great deal of shock. I think its safe to say it was completely out of the blue. I had intended to pass along an obit when it was available. I know it'd been a while since he was around here, but I figured some of you might remember him. Somehow Yooper found out about it and informed he rest of us on Sunday. I think we still had some blind hope that he'd recover and then blast us for getting all sappy about him. Unfortunately that wasn't to be. It's especially heartbreaking to think of how he was found. Bless his daughter for trying to save him. I hope she gets all of the help she needs to deal with that trauma.

Certainly the Dems aren't helping themselves with their messaging, but the media has been absolutely savage since this debate took place. And that would have happened regardless. They can't just ignore their way out of this.

The chutzpah of these guys talking about "Twitter is not real life" when they are two of the most Twitter-brained people on my feed lol

I'm not sure which is better, where you quickly switch to vibing argument you besmirch others for using, or when you generalized your homophobia to others. I guess it's better than your normal torrent of anti-semitic videos.

Biden won the debate by a landslide but he’s always been a very poor public speaker. This was on graphic display for the first 20 minutes and unfortunately plays into the only real question mark to his campaign, which is age and cognitive ability. You should go back and watch. Biden settled down and ended up doing very well. He absolutely destroyed Trump in the debate. Trump was horrendous. He did nothing to help himself. He lied 95% of the time and rarely answered any of the direct questions. He babbled on about how he was fantastic without offering any actual substance. Typical Don BS that we’ve grown accustomed to seeing.

In my day you could trade Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas...Ben Oglivie for Jim Slaton

The cspan callers, ie the pulse of the nation, is much more ambivalent on the debate than I was expecting.

I usually don't comment on politics but I find it amazing that we can't find better candidates in a country of over 330m than two very old guys one of whom can't answer a simple question directly because he's too busy filibustering and mud slinging the other guy and the other whom can't even form a coherent enough sentence to answer a question directly. Not to mention all the "you're the worst, no YOU'RE the worst" stuff without coming up with actual solutions for how they plan on improving on the failed regime of his opponent. Scary and especially in Biden's case, his quick decline is very concerning already so how is he going to handle 4 more years?

JHM...the guy who is only here because of his hit tool, has a lower OPS than Zach McKinstry.

Problem solved.

Ukraine is kicking ass right now…Trump is ****ing wrong

I’m old enough to remember when George Lombard Sr was a can’t-miss prospect. 👴

Maybe, I'm just glazing over when trump speaks. Im on pins and needles when Biden speaks.

Joe Biden has about 40 minutes to figure out how to keep the entire planet from bailing on him.

Ha!

Pitching his guts out.

It's an IdahoBert game thread!!

Have you taken a look at the 2020 draft recently? Tork has been bad so far, but every team in baseball takes him with the number 1 pick that year. That was the COVID draft, teams were basically flying blind because there was little to no scouting going on. They were going off old data from the previous season, and Tork was looking like a sure thing based on what he did in 2019. With hindsight being 20/20 who do you take with the number 1 pick that draft? Garrett Crochet, I guess? There’s no way anyone would have taken him with the number 1 pick that year. No way. I think Avila stunk, but using Tork’s career bWAR as evidence is kind of silly IMHO. There’s plenty of other ammo for that particular argument. The 2020 draft is so weird to me, the reds took a kid with the 12th pick that had tons of power and now in 2024 he’s stuck in AA with a .600 OPS. At least Tork will have a major league career, ha. with all that said, I’m hoping the Reds are the team the Tigers trade Tork to. I could see him hitting 40 bombs in GABP.

Trading Skubal, without knowing what you’d get in return, doesn’t signal anything. Most casual fans, which comprise the majority, would not care about it after a week, if at all. Sure Tigers Twitter might freak out, but who cares. Here’s a few realities: -A starting pitcher can only impact 20% of the games a team plays. -They are prone to injury. -Skubal is only controlled for two more seasons and has Boras as his agent. He will become a free agent. -He strikes me as someone competitive who will place a premium on a winning culture (admittedly a guess here). -There is a strong likelihood that he will be on a different team in 2027. So how does trading him set this team back 5 years, if he’s likely gone in 3? I personally like having him on the team, but given all of the deficiencies we have throughout the organization, if he nets a haul from a team who is thinking playoffs and has depth to move, we’d need to be receptive. He’s not a distressed player, so absolutely no reason to give him away, but trading him would also not doom this organization long term. If done properly, it might actually accelerate our competitiveness.

The best thing to happen during the Randy Smith era was Juan Gonzalez turning down his 8 year/ $140 million offer at the start of the 2000 season. Terrible decision by Juan, great for the Tigers. 2nd best move was trading Greg Gohr for Damion Easley. But then he gave Easley a big contract extension and we ended up eating most of that. None of his other moves really came out to the Tigers' advantage. Terrible GM.

That is an interesting take on trading Skubal. I am not a proponent of trading Skubal let me just start off by saying that but let's view it through a non-we've been rebuilding for 7 years lens. Skubal is a Boras-represented player with arm injury history as fresh as last year and is signed through 2026 I believe so 2 1/2 more years. If Baltimore comes to you and says hey we are willing to trade you Basallo, Mayo, and a couple of others off of their non-top 100 prospects which addresses your future at Catcher and 3rd Base and some possible other fliers. I would be hard-pressed to pass that up. I know people are going to say you have to get Holliday but assuming you couldn't the above would be hard not to say yes to. Pitching injuries can happen at any time and Skubal has not shown the durability of a JV or Scherzer so while he is a fantastic player there are absolutely scenarios in which I would trade him and it not be seen as a white flag at least in my eyes but rather a calculated risk move.