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I don't get the criticism here. Not counting Dobnak (that was a pure salary dump to balance the trade), the Tigers have added five pitchers to the mix. When your depth is ravaged*, that's a good thing. I much prefer that to putting all your eggs in one basket. And we are criticizing them for not giving up enough? I'm trying to figure that one out.

Very good point. We’d have to screw up big time at this point to not make the playoffs—and a lot of what happens once you get to the playoffs small sample size and somewhat unpredictable. Better to make some small additions to the roster than sell off prospects that will likely be a part of many more future playoff runs. The Tigers are BY FAR in the best position for this year and the next 5 years out of all teams in the division—so going for broke at a single trade deadline doesn’t make that much sense. As much as I want the Tigers to bring in a bunch of established talent, I’d rather they be conservative at this point. We went balls to the wall with DD at the helm and it never paid off fully…..why not try a different strategy?

The Tigers are the only team in MLB where their entire division has thrown in the towel. Everyone else sold and essentially conceded the playoff spot. They didn’t need to be as aggressive as others today since they aren’t fighting to secure a playoff spot. Everyone else has to put pedal to metal just to ensure they get in. Playoffs are a crapshoot either way. You can’t just build the best team and expect to win the World Series. They could’ve added Suarez, Miller, and Bednar today and it still wouldn’t improve their chances of winning it all. Definitely would’ve helped get them in the playoffs but that’s not an issue.

There’s times where I feel like I’m a street urchin in a Dickens novel, shivering in the cold and peering through the windows of the rich people’s homes, watching them dine and celebrate a Christmas dinner of roast pheasant and razzberry dressing.

Has any other GM acquired a pitcher who has already pitched 6 innings of 1-run 3-hit ball with his new team?

He's not scared. I guarantee he's not scared.

I like it. Build for October and get options in place. I still think something bigger is afoot.

No, it can't. It's something that comes from within.

Just because it’s Black Friday or Prime Day doesn’t mean you have to go shopping.

What I like about Heuer and Sewald is they don't tie down a roster spot right now, but have upside. You can only carry 8 relievers, so bringing a couple guys in as options down the road is something you can afford to do when you have payroll flexibility and a large divisional lead.

Great. He and Alex Cobb can talk baseball together.

Or, they didn’t value Suarez as much as you do.

Im not saying Charlie Morton is old, it's just his first baseball card came with a pack of Lucky Strikes. 🤣

Lemonade out of lemons? Scott Harris has just communicated to this group of guys that he believes they are good enough as is to take us deep into October and maybe even November, and don’t need help from high-priced trade targets that cost us anyone from the top of our system. That kind of thing means a lot to extreme competitors as major-league players are, especially on a team on which most of them all came up together and are growing as major leaguers together. Take that for what it’s worth.

I look forward to the Friday night game when Casey and Finnegan dress up in City Connect uniforms to combine for 9 well-pitched innings.* *I expect that only Canadians - or viewers of Windsor's Channel 9 in the '70s or '80s - will get that reference.

You will feel better after all the rich people watch the Tigers win the World Series.

why could we never this kind of haul when we were sellers? Thanks, Al

It’s the end of an error.

I will reiterate that I do not believe Harris will liquidate anything near the top of our system, and the prices paid so far seem to indicate he might not have to. The top guys I think we'd be willing to let go are Briceno and Max Anderson, and that might be (more than?) enough to pry Bednar out of Pittsburgh.

Rental bats just don’t bring much. Has any one brought back more than Michael Fulmer since the Cespedes trade? And other than Chapman, very few, if any rental relievers have brought back a top 100. Controlled pitching (and hitting) will bring top prospects. Rentals hardly ever do.

I like the Tigers site, 2022 World Series champ Montero. Is he going to distract hitters with the ring?

Key is Skubal, Mize and Flaherty staying healthy. If they are, everything else will fall into place, the Tigers have plenty of tools.

No, but someone who can help in regular season, has experience out of the pen, and still has 9k/9 as a starter.

Since May 1 Morton's ERA is 3.98. His FIP 3.92. He had a terrible April, which is responsible for his 5+ season ERA. So he's not a bad depth piece to add to the rotation.

I mean much respect for his service in the Great War, lets hope he can regain the form that helped him in the Battle of the Marne.

I just want to point out Correa has not been good this year. 0.1 WAR .704 OPS on the year.

Byron Buxton wondering where everyone went

Correa to Houston - I hope it was a serious offer!

Remember last year when the Tigers gave up and Harris blew it at the deadline? They are 98-65 since then. Relax people.

not a crazy approach; get 6 new arms, hope 1 is dealing come October.

I mean, I did injure my toe and I'm day to day. There was concern it was turf toe but tests revealed it is just gout.

I'm just relieved I can go 3 days without checking this thread yet return to no posts about any new injuries!

Like Dombrowski the Padres have never been shy about trading premium prospects for proven vets so seeing them give up a top 5 overall prospect certainly isn't surprising.

Nah, I just don’t think he feels desperate. He’ll pull the trigger if he feels it’s a good value, as it should be.

Sewald? Is Harris really going to go the bargain basement route to build a post-season roster? I hope he is just taking flyers on these guys and still has a big move in mind.

Feels underwhelming

I want more run prevention...don't see a real offensive swing that will change much.

Conversely, you have a good team and real weaknesses in the back end of your bullpen. You might not be as healthy next year and the AL might be not be as wide open. You have to give your team the best shot to do something special. They want to build a sustainable product where they have playoff/competitive teams every year. This is one of those chances.

The media has been making money from Trump for years.

I guess we have about 12 hours left, but I’m starting to feel like we’re the poor kid in Polar Express who lives on the wrong side of the tracks for whom Christmas just never works out. I don’t want to mortgage the future for momentary gain. And there’s something to be said for “pulling yourself up by your boot straps“ but I don’t think that kid even had straps on his boots.

Trades so far about as expected. Not much return for rentals. More for controllable players. Still think Scottie has something more in store.

The defense should be fine. The interior DL may takes its lumps against teams like Baltimore and Philly, but they have the DPOY betting favorite on the edge, Anzalone/Campbell behind them, one of the best safeties in the league deep, and two capable to good corners. Healthy, I agree that’s top five. It’s the offensive line that worries me. We are betting on a lot going right with Mahagony/Glasgow/Ratledge on the interior, and that’s not even accounting for Decker’s age. There may be games where we see Goff turtle so often we want to put a hole in the TV. Those games may happen with two guards who have nearly no collective NFL experience. Now if the OL is as good as last year, or even just a little bit worse, there is no reason we can’t make the Super Bowl. We could have last year before half the team fell off an injury cliff.

maybe Kahnle needs to grow a 'stache. or a beard and then shave everything but the 'stache. or maybe just go somewhere else.

Iirc, he was running on the pitch, presumably a hit and run, but the pitch was wild and bounced past the catcher so Tork cruised into 2nd.

This is honestly a plausible expectation. Had Hutch stayed healthy he might have broken the single-season sack record. He might do it this year. By the time of the Bills game last year, Ben Niemann had the second-most snaps at LB with 63% of defensive snaps. David Long and Zeke Turner had 41% and 40% of defensive snaps for the LB position, and Kwon Alexander with 12%. The CB position was as bad, other than Terrion Arnold. It's very disappointing for those guys (not to mention us fans) for a 15-2 season to end that way. I listened to the whole Sirius XM training camp show in Detroit. Everyone they talked to is so dialed in. I think the press is sleeping on them, with Philly and Washington getting a lot of press. But I think the defense will be in the top ten and the offense will still put up a lot of points.

I was a little shocked he only hit Beasley for 20 corner three assists. I looked it up and the Pistons do not take a lot of corner threes. 717 total last year, and that ranked them 23rd in the league in attempts. Phoenix was 1st with just over 900 attempts. The top 10 is pretty wild. In order: Phoenix, Utah, Miami, Brooklyn, Chicago, Atlanta, Cleveland, Minnesota, Golden State, and San Antonio. 7 of those teams were irrelevant last year. Either missed the playoffs or lost in the play-in games. So maybe corner three attempts are not a good indicator of team success.

Lol