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NFC Super Wildcard Weekend: Los Angeles Rams (10-7) @ Detroit Lions (12-5)


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2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

No playoffs in that era so, no, not Clark & Layne.

It was a simple "Championship game", not a playoffs.

Not to get too technical here...

Few fans realize that the Lions actually won something called the Playoff Bowl three straight times, 1960-1962. It was basically a post-season consolation game to decide 3rd place in the NFL. The ten Playoff Bowls, 1960-1969, were official playoff games at the time they were played; today, the NFL consider the games as exhibitions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playoff_Bowl

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm not even sure what Joseph is supposed to do anyways? You can't go high so you have to go low. 

Clearly he should have done a two-hand touch below the waist or pulled the flag off his waist. This is the NFL... it's not a contact sport.

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14 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

No playoffs in that era so, no, not Clark & Layne.

It was a simple "Championship game", not a playoffs.

Not to get too technical here...

That seems like a very technical nitpick... but as someone who like technical nitpicks, I'll allow it.

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2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I couldn't believe it when Tirico/Collinsworth were questioning the wisdom of accepting that penalty.... that's a risk you absolutely take there given the down and distance they could force in 4th down. It's a really good example of putting pressure on the Rams coaching staff as well.

Yeah I totally agree with the call but given the Lions struggles on 3rd and long it wasn't a slam dunk decision. If they don't take the penalty chances are the Rams are trying the FG to take the lead, so worst case scenario is you're down 2 with 4 minutes to go so you atleast have a chance to drive down the field and win the game.

By taking the penalty you run the risk of them converting and then potentially killing all or most of the clock before kicking the go ahead FG leaving you with no chance to respond.  

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dan campbell's aggression was a big factor in winning this game (along with the refs swalloing the whistle on PI in the second half).  he went for a td on 4th and goal when the lions were rolling.  he let goff pass twice on the last drive instead of just running up the gut to burn clock.

and mcvay wasting two time outs early in order to get "perfect play calls" burned him in the end.  he's one of the best play callers in the league but also one of the worst in the nfl in burning time outs early.

stafford was his usual stafford self: big arm, taking big punishment and somehow playing through it.  just like he was as a lion.  and just like he was as a lion, he didnt win the big game in detroit even though it wasnt his fault.

but to me this was about dan campbell and jared goff.  campbell is a great coach and goff played very well in the first half and on the last drive...other than his almost catastrophic fumble pass that the lions fortunately recovered.

now...on to the mock draft machine to see if there are on cornerbacks worth drafting!  lol.

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7 minutes ago, buddha said:

dan campbell's aggression was a big factor in winning this game (along with the refs swalloing the whistle on PI in the second half).  he went for a td on 4th and goal when the lions were rolling.  he let goff pass twice on the last drive instead of just running up the gut to burn clock.

and mcvay wasting two time outs early in order to get "perfect play calls" burned him in the end.  he's one of the best play callers in the league but also one of the worst in the nfl in burning time outs early.

stafford was his usual stafford self: big arm, taking big punishment and somehow playing through it.  just like he was as a lion.  and just like he was as a lion, he didnt win the big game in detroit even though it wasnt his fault.

but to me this was about dan campbell and jared goff.  campbell is a great coach and goff played very well in the first half and on the last drive...other than his almost catastrophic fumble pass that the lions fortunately recovered.

now...on to the mock draft machine to see if there are on cornerbacks worth drafting!  lol.

The refs also swallowed the whistle on the obvious hold on Hutchinson on that pass interreference. At worst it should have been offsetting penalties. 

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7 minutes ago, buddha said:

dan campbell's aggression was a big factor in winning this game (along with the refs swalloing the whistle on PI in the second half).  he went for a td on 4th and goal when the lions were rolling.  he let goff pass twice on the last drive instead of just running up the gut to burn clock.

and mcvay wasting two time outs early in order to get "perfect play calls" burned him in the end.  he's one of the best play callers in the league but also one of the worst in the nfl in burning time outs early.

stafford was his usual stafford self: big arm, taking big punishment and somehow playing through it.  just like he was as a lion.  and just like he was as a lion, he didnt win the big game in detroit even though it wasnt his fault.

but to me this was about dan campbell and jared goff.  campbell is a great coach and goff played very well in the first half and on the last drive...other than his almost catastrophic fumble pass that the lions fortunately recovered.

now...on to the mock draft machine to see if there are on cornerbacks worth drafting!  lol.

Well said and this pretty much sums it up. 

And yeah CBs are definitely at the top of their priority right now, they need to get atleast 2 upgrades in the offseason. 

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that was not an obvious hold on hutch.  that was an obvious pass interference call on sutton that wasnt called.  and it wasnt the only one.  the lions secondary got away with a lot.

in fairness, we dont know if the rams got away with similar stuff because they didnt show a lot of downfield camera angles.  that said, the lions surely did.

that's life.  and its about time the lions got some benefit of the doubt from the refs.  this is why you work so hard to get homefield advantage: the crowd put the rams off a couple times and may have influenced the refs to swallow the whistle.  it happens all the time and this time we benefitted.  no need to apologize or whataboutthis it.

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58 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Yeah I totally agree with the call but given the Lions struggles on 3rd and long it wasn't a slam dunk decision. If they don't take the penalty chances are the Rams are trying the FG to take the lead, so worst case scenario is you're down 2 with 4 minutes to go so you atleast have a chance to drive down the field and win the game.

By taking the penalty you run the risk of them converting and then potentially killing all or most of the clock before kicking the go ahead FG leaving you with no chance to respond.  

The Lions had their three time outs, so I suspect that they would have gotten the ball back with a little bit of time.

But really, if you give up the big play there you kinda deserve to lose anyway.... it's a calculated risk, but DC having the fortitude to make those calls is why they were set up for the anti-climactic, kneel-down win versus a FG or 4th down attempt and being forced to put together a drive at the end.

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2 hours ago, buddha said:

stafford was fine in that press conference.  people are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

also, other than that ridiculously obvious offsides call that probably cost the lions 3 points, the refs really helped the lions.  they had a pass interference call on the last play (a d a few other ones too), a borderline roughing call on hutch/mcneill they didnt call, and a potential unnecessary roughness call on kirby when he took out higbee's knees.  

i talk a lot about the refs ****ing the lions, but they really helped them last night.  the benefits of playing at home against a non-marquee team.

I agree on the pass interference and roughness, but they let some of those go on the Rams, also so I don't think it over benefited either team. However, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the tackle on Higbee.

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Actually, the Lions did win a "real" playoff game back in 1957.

The Lions and 49'ers tied for what was then known as the Western Conference of the NFL.

A playoff game was held in Kezar Stadium in San Francisco on December, 22, 1957.

The Lions won 31-27 and thereby made the NFL Championship Game.

So yes, the Lions have won a road playoff game - you just have to go back 66 years!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_NFL_playoffs

https://www.profootballhof.com/football-history/1957-playoff-game/

 

 

 

 

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