LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?

[IdahoBert]

55 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

2020:  Tigers to retire Lou Whitaker's jersey.     STOP,  no fans,  no retirement

2021:  Limited fan attendance, we'll do it next year

2022:  Well, we were going to do it again, but once the lockout went into June, we backed off,  maybe next year.  

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the story. Well you know what they say about great minds thinking alike; it’s similar to the saying about big hands and big feet inferring big shoes. 

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[Tiger337]

Manfred will give us some BS about about how they are working hard and made a fair offer and he wants to start the season on time, but the players are not negotiating in good faith.

Edited February 9, 2022 by Tiger337

[1776]

I’d guess there is a realistic chance he officially announces a delayed start in one fashion or another. Spring training won’t start on time as it is. 
It’s hard to believe that after all the chaos and confusion experienced around the 2020 season that the owners and players haven’t made any more effort before now than they have to prevent an interruption to this season. 

[casimir]

5 hours ago, 1776 said:

I’d guess there is a realistic chance he officially announces a delayed start in one fashion or another. Spring training won’t start on time as it is. 
It’s hard to believe that after all the chaos and confusion experienced around the 2020 season that the owners and players haven’t made any more effort before now than they have to prevent an interruption to this season. 

I would bet it’s to announce a delay to the start of spring training and then an attempt to push the blame onto the players.

[gehringer_2]

14 minutes ago, casimir said:

I would bet it’s to announce a delay to the start of spring training and then an attempt to push the blame onto the players.

Sure, the thinking would be that it ups the pressure on the players. Things is I don't know if either side is particularly sensitive to what the public thinks, so it probably won't make any difference in terms of good strategy.

[SoCalTiger]

I agree neither side cares what the fans think. 

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[Motor City Sonics]

Today I was dropping off a research collection kit to someone and it was 45 degrees and the sun was out. 

My thoughts turned to that feeling you get when you hear a spring training game on the radio for the first time after the long, dark, depressing winter and then I thought about opening day and I became sad, because I don't think it's happening in April this year. 

[casimir]

10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Sure, the thinking would be that it ups the pressure on the players. Things is I don't know if either side is particularly sensitive to what the public thinks, so it probably won't make any difference in terms of good strategy.

Agree with you on all counts.

[Tiger337]

 

 

[Tigeraholic1]

 

 

[Tigermojo]

Meeting on Saturday. Lots of yelling and expletives and the meeting ended after five minutes. Right on schedule.

[Motor City Sonics]

Rob Manfred talking is like adults on Peanuts. 

 

WHAU WHAU WHAU WHUA WHUA WHUA 

[romad1]

Manfred will manipulate the shit out of that lottery to deny picks to teams he doesn't approve of.   JUST like he did with the juiced and non-juiced baseballs last season.  

[mtutiger]

Part of me is hanging on the comment about how lost regular season games would be catastrophic. 

But I really don't trust Manfred, I dont.

[Dan Gilmore]

Nor should you.

[CMRivdogs]

Keep in mind he is owned by the clubs. We haven't had an impartial Commissioner since Bart Giamatti

[chasfh]

16 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Part of me is hanging on the comment about how lost regular season games would be catastrophic. 

But I really don't trust Manfred, I dont.

I think that comment is a set up to blame players for the catastrophe of losing games.

[chasfh]

 

[SoCalTiger]

Just split the difference and be done with it for goodness sake. 

[oblong]

So we will have a delayed season for less than the price of a Rick Porcello on each team.   Are there any differences of principal rather than degree?

[Motor City Sonics]

13 minutes ago, oblong said:

So we will have a delayed season for less than the price of a Rick Porcello on each team.   Are there any differences of principal rather than degree?

Neither side really wants to give in.      They don't care if they damage the game 10 years down the road.   

[Motor City Sonics]

Aren't non-roster players reporting to Spring Training on time?