casimir Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Mental health is an issue, sure. But this is a situation where a mental health issue was discovered months ago. And yet, here we are with another mass shooting. So now what? Tell you what, the new speaker of the house wants to be a leader and believes he has the solution to the problem? Drop his ass off in Maine, let him be a part of the manhunt, let him try to talk the gun out of Card's hands. Go ahead, let leadership have at it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, pfife said: Does the speaker of the house know the difference between a heart and a mind? The Speaker is a moron who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old and that Jesus had a pet dinosaur. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, ewsieg said: I do agree with republicans that mental illness (in a holistic view) is the root of the problem and until that is properly cared for you will continue to see deaths due to someone 'snapping'. I tend to believe that the desire to acquire a whole arsenal of weapons of war is probably linked to mental illness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ewsieg said: I do agree with republicans that mental illness (in a holistic view) is the root of the problem and until that is properly cared for you will continue to see deaths due to someone 'snapping'. Guns are just a more efficient way for these folks to rack up a body count. My problem with republicans isn't that they are incorrect on the root of the problem, it's that they refuse to put a band-aid on it (common sense gun laws) and offer no solutions on the mental illness portion outside of 'go find God'. The democratic solution of focusing on the guns, IMO, doesn't address the root of the problem, but it definitely would save lives while we all work to correct the root of the problem. one of great virtues of those late 18th century white males that cobbled together our governing systems is that they had no romantic illusions about the frailties of humanity. They tried to put together systems that could function with the state of humanity where it was. If all those conservatives really had any feel for how the founders really thought, they would agree with you that if you find yourself with a population that isn't safe with the available types of weaponry, don't count on perfecting the population, that's an idealistic bridge too far, solve the problem more practically - remove that availability. Edited October 27, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I doubt if any current member of the rabid loon caucus in Congress has ever heard of John Locke let alone read his works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 hours ago, MIguy said: The Speaker is a moron who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old and that Jesus had a pet dinosaur. He thinks The Flintstones is a documentary. Too bad Idiocracy turned into one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) What the actual hell!? Hang this like a noose around the neck of the entire GOP. Edited October 27, 2023 by romad1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 7 hours ago, MIguy said: The Speaker is a moron who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old and that Jesus had a pet dinosaur. 60% of Americans believe that the Noah's ark story was real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, romad1 said: What the actual hell!? Hang this like a noose around the neck of the entire GOP. Kristina Karamo is the party leader.............does this surprise you at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 8:52 AM, chasfh said: I tend to believe that the desire to acquire a whole arsenal of weapons of war is probably linked to mental illness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 That’s nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I own 3 handguns and have been feeling like I have at least one and maybe two too many. Collecting antique weapons is one thing but anyone who feels the need to have that many working guns should be on a list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, MIguy said: I own 3 handguns and have been feeling like I have at least one and maybe two too many. Collecting antique weapons is one thing but anyone who feels the need to have that many working guns should be on a list. I am tracking this sentiment. i have more than that. i enjoy the process of shooting and all but it’s becoming a grimmer thing because of the political scheiss that appends to being a shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, romad1 said: I am tracking this sentiment. i have more than that. i enjoy the process of shooting and all but it’s becoming a grimmer thing because of the political scheiss that appends to being a shooter. It's fun going to the range and popping off some rounds, what I don't understand is people needing a half a dozen or more rifles that fire the same rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, MIguy said: It's fun going to the range and popping off some rounds, what I don't understand is people needing a half a dozen or more rifles that fire the same rounds. concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Anybody else go out for Halloween and see people with (maybe) toy guns in their get up and fear that they are actually packing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 17 "Good guys with guns" could (or would) not stop one a-hole with a knife.... They should all be charged as accessories to the murder. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: 17 "Good guys with guns" could (or would) not stop one a-hole with a knife.... They should all be charged as accessories to the murder. Maybe they were all just waiting to see if the murderer needed assistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So society has to endure all of the ills that come with everyone being armed, so that good guys can stop bad guys. Then when they get that rare chance to stop the bad guy with a gun, they defecate the sleeping facilities. This sucks bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Maybe I shouldn't have had any higher expectations of the folks that told me for decades the 2nd Amendment was awesome because they could stop a tyrannical government..... then they voted for a tyrannical government, did nothing to stop the tyranny, and also played coup errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr tourist at the capitol in order to try to keep the tyrannical government in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: 17 "Good guys with guns" could (or would) not stop one a-hole with a knife.... They should all be charged as accessories to the murder. It seems like all of you folks claim you hate Twitter, but then someone says something on Twitter, which is horribly slanted, you agree with it and love it. I don't get it. One person said there was 17 people with guns, in reading the story, the first person at the scene didn't have a gun and yelled at the person which spooked the assailant and caused him to flee. No one else was injured, no one was shot by accident. It is a horrible story, but outside of one eye witness that it sounds like showed up after the fact, this story is not about guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 so wait - if the killer's victim is already dead, there's nothing good guys with guns can do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 A dollar short and a day late. That sounds a lot like the MAGA's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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