chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: or Hinch just wants to win every game he can without regard to development value because his cachet as a manager is rapidly taking on water running this team. I wouldn't find that unlikely at all. >Maybe because they have already rigorously attempted to get Baddoo to hit lefties better and have determined that he simply can't do so What is the evidence to support this conclusion? "Maybe statements" are not conclusions, and I don't have to provide evidence for this "maybe" statement any more than you have to provide evidence that they never have done so. Edited May 31, 2023 by chasfh Clarifying the concept of "maybe statements" with quotes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 13 hours ago, Edman85 said: The Tigers are late to the heavy platoon party (and Sparky was early to it). Get used to it. The days of the same 9 guys starting a majority of games are over. 1972 Tigers and Billy Martin excelled with platooning. It's been around forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'm also laughing at the speculation that Hinch is short-sightedly focused only on winning today's game at all costs and is disregarding every developmental consideration, contradictory to Scott Harris's goals. I believe, rather strongly actually, that it is very unlikely that Harris and Hinch are at loggerheads and working at cross-purposes, and that is it very likely they are very much on the same page regarding the direction and development of this entire franchise. I have no evidence to support that conclusion beyond almost eight months of public statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Maybe statements are not conclusions, and I don't have to provide evidence for this "maybe" statement any more than you have to provide evidence that they never have done so. LOL - OK - if we are all spitballing it's all good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: I'm also laughing at the speculation that Hinch is short-sightedly focused only on winning today's game at all costs and is disregarding every developmental consideration, contradictory to Scott Harris's goals. I believe, rather strongly actually, that it is very unlikely that Harris and Hinch are at loggerheads and working at cross-purposes, and that is it very likely they are very much on the same page regarding the direction and development of this entire franchise. I have no evidence to support that conclusion beyond almost eight months of public statements. yeah - I get that, but the I'm also old enough to remember that Hinch's first year with Avila was quite a public statement lovefest as well - so call me jaded..... Don't get me wrong, I like alot about Hinch, but I also think he is much more the shapeshifter than we give him credit for. I think his public presentation is much more calculated than it appears and that that is by design. Again, I woldn't even call that a fault in a person doing his job, but it does mean keep the salt close by. Edited May 31, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: LOL - OK - if we are all spitballing it's all good! That's what "maybeing" is all about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: yeah - I get that, but the I'm also old enough to remember that Hinch's first year with Avila was quite a public statement lovefest as well - so call me jaded..... Don't get me wrong, I like alot about Hinch, but I also think he is much more the shapeshifter than we give him credit for. I think his public presentation is much more calculated than it appears and that that is by design. Again, I woldn't even call that a fault in a person doing his job, but it does mean keep the salt close by. Agree—I'm also sure Hinch's public presentation is designed to elicit certain responses and engender confidence in him. I'm not so sure it's all a ruse to mask underhanded intentions that would be detrimental to the franchise. Just because he's careful about his public statements in his role as manager of the team doesn't per se mean he's a slimeball. I acknowledge you're not at all saying that, although I would also guess that some fans might wonder about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I am very happy with Harris and for me Hinch has gone from solid to "not so sure" but not looking for change. I also think he would do very well in sales after his managing days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: Riley got hurt? I see Jake's Career OBP is .281...........this doesn't really fit what they're going for, does it? Well, we got within 1 game of .500 and 1 game of first place. I think that's as far as they get. Here comes the nosedive. Riley has a fractured tibia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Glass Greene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, KL2 said: Glass Greene I have the same (over?)reaction. Is he going to be one of those players who gets injured every year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Riley has a fractured tibia That's six to eight weeks. This season has fallen apart quite rapidly, hasn't it? Less than forty-eight hours by my estimation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I have the same (over?)reaction. Is he going to be one of those players who gets injured every year? has anyone noticed that Riley was running sort of funny this season? I didn't remember if he has alway done that but he has had sort of a 'mincing' way of running recently at least. I wonder if he has been trying to play through discomfort for some time. Actually I don't wonder - he must have, stress fractures develop over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Can't really fault him for the foul off the foot last year, but it does seem to be a little concerning that he would get a stress fracture in his fibula at the age of 22, particularly when he only played part of last season, played no offseason ball and is only 2 months into this year so it's not like he has been overworked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, RandyMarsh said: Can't really fault him for the foul off the foot last year, but it does seem to be a little concerning that he would get a stress fracture in his fibula at the age of 22, particularly when he only played part of last season, played no offseason ball and is only 2 months into this year so it's not like he has been overworked. The flip side it that its probably young players most likely to overtrain/over-practice. Shoes probably play a part too. When you hit your 20's and your bones all harden up sometimes you don't realize you need to transition to a more shock absorbing shoe than you have been using without issue until something like this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: has anyone noticed that Riley was running sort of funny this season? I didn't remember if he has alway done that but he has had sort of a 'mincing' way of running recently at least. I wonder if he has been trying to play through discomfort for some time. Actually I don't wonder - he must have, stress fractures develop over time. He seems to me to have a weird run. Its kind of cartoonish in a way. His upper body almost seems to trail his legs. That's probably bot the case at all, but his upper body doesn't seem to be in front of his legs like others. Its not very athletic looking to me (which is rich coming from someone that can have their 40 timed with a sun dial). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Iirc I seem to remember scouts talking about how he ran even before he was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 So...who do we pray for lottery luck to land next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: So...who do we pray for lottery luck to land next year? Somebody who doesn't get hurt all the time would be a nice start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, KL2 said: Glass Greene Hopefully...there' no infections in his future...the last thing we need is Gang Greene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The Tigers could draft Wolverine and somehow he'd blow an acl or need Tommy John surgery shortly after we picked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: The Tigers could draft Wolverine and somehow he'd blow an acl or need Tommy John surgery shortly after we picked him. #nerdalert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 we're not allowed to have nice things. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, buddha said: we're not allowed to have nice things. 😞 2024 will be interesting with all of these players who are injured and under team control coming back. The rotation candidates: Mize Skubal Turnbull Manning ERod (if he doesn’t opt out) Brieske Faedo Wentz Guys knocking on the door: Flores, Madden, Olsen and Hurter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Hurter. Oh his name just screams injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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