RatkoVarda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 CFL MVP signs futures contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think he also knocked out the Saskatchewan Roughriders' QB with a snowball to the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Different league though. I mean, I love what he's showing on tape... but we'll see what happens when he faces NFL players. He's smallish (6'0" 248 if that's accurate and not exaggerated...), so... he's on OLB'er? Pass-rush specialist? I don't see him as the bookend to Hutch because there is no possible way he's going to hold the edge against NFL tackles. But hey... any kind of pass rush help the Lions get is a plus... again, we'll just see what he does against NFL players. At his size... he seems like another James Houston (although with different technique as you can see on the tape...). A plus to Holmes for finding "things" underneath every single stone ("leave no unturned..."). We'll see if he found a little golden nugget or just some pyrite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) I know there's guys from back in the day like Moon and Flutie who had NFL success after being in the CFL but are there any real recent examples? I trust Holmes but I'm totally tempering my expectations on this one. Maybe he'll help but I'm guessing more than likely he isn't going to amount to much. Edited February 14 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Currently, I see some Canadian players but they've stuck with their NFL teams and never played in the CFL: Michael Hoecht is a pretty good DT for the Rams with 6 sacks, a forced fumble and 81 tackles in 2023. (Seems like a lot of tackles for a DT... he's 6'4" 310 which doesn't say anything... maybe he has some "wiggle"/ athleticism to get to guys...? Jevon Holland is a pretty good safety for the Dolphins. Dalton Kincaid: Pretty good TE for the Bills. I had to Google just to find that as I have no clue otherwise... Fun fact: Eddie Murray is Canadian? Damn!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Currently, I see some Canadian players but they've stuck with their NFL teams and never played in the CFL: Michael Hoecht is a pretty good DT for the Rams with 6 sacks, a forced fumble and 81 tackles in 2023. (Seems like a lot of tackles for a DT... he's 6'4" 310 which doesn't say anything... maybe he has some "wiggle"/ athleticism to get to guys...? Jevon Holland is a pretty good safety for the Dolphins. Dalton Kincaid: Pretty good TE for the Bills. I had to Google just to find that as I have no clue otherwise... Fun fact: Eddie Murray is Canadian? Damn!!! The Rams play Hoecht at LB a lot for some reason. Laporta cooked him for a TD in the playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Different league though. I mean, I love what he's showing on tape... but we'll see what happens when he faces NFL players. He's smallish (6'0" 248 if that's accurate and not exaggerated...), so... he's on OLB'er? Pass-rush specialist? I don't see him as the bookend to Hutch because there is no possible way he's going to hold the edge against NFL tackles. But hey... any kind of pass rush help the Lions get is a plus... again, we'll just see what he does against NFL players. At his size... he seems like another James Houston (although with different technique as you can see on the tape...). A plus to Holmes for finding "things" underneath every single stone ("leave no unturned..."). We'll see if he found a little golden nugget or just some pyrite. Pretty much my feeling exactly. On the good news side... he won't have to learn a new team name, so his learning curve will be slightly lower. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Maybe Holmes can bring in the best CFL kicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/12/2024 at 11:57 AM, 1984Echoes said: Ragnow is getting injured often. When he's out 6 games next year, what's the backup plan? Interior line of Awosika-Glasgow-Sorsdal? Sorry... but that doesn't give me any comfort level whatsoever. Can't afford Jonah is bull****. IMO. He won't get top 10 guard money... that's BS. The O-Line is the ENGINE of this team. **** up the O-Line and we **** up our Super Bowl chances. Sorry, but I'm overruling you. Of all of our Free Agents this year: Jonah Jackson is our priority re-sign #1. I agree and I disagree. OL is the engine of this teams success. They need to keep feeding it. Yes, if they mess it up, they **** up the Super Bowl chances. Jonah Jackson is very average. He had a good year in 2021 and hasn’t been at that level since. I also don’t think he’s that tough. Ragnow will play through anything and Jackson will sit at almost anything. Let’s let someone else pay him. His production should not be hard for Brad to replace and improve on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Many of Holmes picks end up taking major strides in year 2 or 3 like Iffy, Barnes, Paschal(when he wasnt injured) and McNeil so despite his lackluster effort in limited time this year I'm not writing off Sordsal being a player in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sorsdal is a 5th round pick from a small school. He is a project and a rash of injuries forced them to play him when I think they really wanted to redshirt him like Brodric Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Well, Sorsdal did not get the nod at the end of the year when Jackson was out. This is not promising but clearly Sorsdal was drafted as a project. Jackson is better than he is being credited for here but with his injury history he does not merit a big multi-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 56 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Many of Holmes picks end up taking major strides in year 2 or 3 like Iffy, Barnes, Paschal(when he wasnt injured) and McNeil so despite his lackluster effort in limited time this year I'm not writing off Sordsal being a player in the future. So when does Levi take a big jump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: So when does Levi take a big jump? Never! If he takes a big jump he'll probably injury his back when he lands. Seriously though, I don't think he's going to be amounting to much, but I think it's more injury related than skill related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 hours ago, Hongbit said: .... His production should not be hard for Brad to replace and improve on. As long as this is true and Holmes picks up whoever this guy may be (draft OR free agent...) and the player proves out this idea... I'm good with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sorsdol was drafted as the jack of all trades, master of none offensive lineman. You can’t roster 10 offensive linemen, so it’s nice to have backup linemen who can plug and play anywhere on the line. Sorsdol was a five year starter at RT, but was projected as an NFL OG, and could probably play C in a pinch. It’s nice to have that versatility on your bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Sorsdol was drafted as the jack of all trades, master of none offensive lineman. You can’t roster 10 offensive linemen, so it’s nice to have backup linemen who can plug and play anywhere on the line. Sorsdol was a five year starter at RT, but was projected as an NFL OG, and could probably play C in a pinch. It’s nice to have that versatility on your bench. It's a huge jump from William and Mary and the Coastal Athletic Conference to the NFL, huge learning curve. He's had a taste, hoping for the best from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: It's a huge jump from William and Mary and the Coastal Athletic Conference to the NFL, huge learning curve. He's had a taste, hoping for the best from him I agree. I think ideally he wouldn't have seen any playing time, let alone any starting time this season. I'm hopeful he can still turn into a serviceable backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 17 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Currently, I see some Canadian players but they've stuck with their NFL teams and never played in the CFL: Michael Hoecht is a pretty good DT for the Rams with 6 sacks, a forced fumble and 81 tackles in 2023. (Seems like a lot of tackles for a DT... he's 6'4" 310 which doesn't say anything... maybe he has some "wiggle"/ athleticism to get to guys...? Jevon Holland is a pretty good safety for the Dolphins. Dalton Kincaid: Pretty good TE for the Bills. I had to Google just to find that as I have no clue otherwise... Fun fact: Eddie Murray is Canadian? Damn!!! Canadian players who make it to the NFL usually go straight there, bypass the CFL. Tight end Luke Wilson, for example, grew up in Windsor, played college football for Rice, then got drafted by the Seahawks in 2013, played several years for them as a starter then had cups of coffee with a few other teams like the Lions. Nathan Rourke, an American who played college ball in the MAC for Ohio, went right to Canada after college and set the CFL on fire for a couple of years as the QB here in BC. So this past summer tried to make the Jaguars, but did not, although did spend some time on the practice squad before being waived and picked up by the Patriots. His few minutes of fame was the highlight reel play in the pre-season though. Edited February 14 by lordstanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Lance Newmark was hired by Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: Lance Newmark was hired by Washington. Damn, Newmark had been with the organization in some capacity since 1994. The poor bastard stayed here and had to work under and suffer through Chuck Schmidt, Matt Millen, Martin Mayhew, and Bob Quinn as his GMs. At least he got a few good years under Brad Holmes at the end of his tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Lance Newmark was hired by Washington. I’m pretty confident that a guy with 25 years in high level scouting and player personnel roles with the Lions before the arrival of Brad Holmes had very little to do with the talent turnaround here. Then again what does a schmo like me know. Maybe his genius took a while to emerge. Greatness can come at any time, even after 27 years on the job. He was highly recommended to the Commanders from NFL front office legend Martin Mayhew. I also wouldn't be surprised if Matt Millen himself didn’t call in a recommendation to his old team on Lance’s behalf. Edited February 14 by Hongbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Maybe Newmark had a GM finally come in to pick his players and then immediately decided to bolt. Or maybe he was just a guy on the staff and this will mean nothing to the team going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/12/2024 at 10:57 AM, 1984Echoes said: Ragnow is getting injured often. When he's out 6 games next year, what's the backup plan? Interior line of Awosika-Glasgow-Sorsdal? Sorry... but that doesn't give me any comfort level whatsoever. Can't afford Jonah is bull****. IMO. He won't get top 10 guard money... that's BS. The O-Line is the ENGINE of this team. **** up the O-Line and we **** up our Super Bowl chances. Sorry, but I'm overruling you. Of all of our Free Agents this year: Jonah Jackson is our priority re-sign #1. i havent seen you this worked up since i told you noah hanifin might cost you a first round pick plus a good prospect or two. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, buddha said: i havent seen you this worked up since i told you noah hanifin might cost you a first round pick plus a good prospect or two. 🙂 😉 Actually... not as worked up as you're thinking... I've said in multiple game threads the same thing: **** up the O-Line and we **** up our season. That's not a worked up statement... I think that's a flat fact. We're not winning games with a dominating defense. And... Goff is great and the running backs and St Brown are great but... Goff falls apart if our O-Line fails him, and we lose our running game if our O-Line is not opening up such great lanes, and blocking at the second level, for them... So I think it's a simple statement that just rings as true: **** up our O-Line and we **** our season. So I'm keying on that this offseason. Even above our crappy CB's and pass rush. On that end... I'm just going to assume that Holmes signs FA's and/ or drafts guys to help out our pass-rush and pass coverage. But I'm interested in what Holmes is going to do with the Offensive Line because I think that's flying under the radar and there are more serious issues there than what most are thinking about. (Vatai out, Glasgow a UFA, same with Jonah Jackson, Ragnow's injuries accumulating, and maybe getting worse, Decker gave up 8 sacks last year... is he still effective at 30 next year on the last year of his contract? I would assume yes but... I don't really know.) So I wonder what Holmes is thinking about keeping this line healthy, who he wants short-term versus long term. Who he is willing to invest in versus move on from. Sewell is the only absolute guarantee... to me. To that end... I've seen media or fans claim Jonah is going to get a top of the market contract... whilst educated guesses by more analytical sources (PFF, etc.) do not have him pegged at the top, but at much more reasonable rates. So if someone is claiming Jonah will be unaffordable because he's getting a top of the market deal... not being worked up at all but, instead, I believe I am stating a simple flat fact: I think that is BS. Not to be mean... But I'm going with PFF's estimates and not fan/media speculation. Edited February 15 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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