Dan Gilmore Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 @smr-nj come on, let’s just call a Spade a Spade 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said: @smr-nj come on, let’s just call a Spade a Spade 😎 Oops! I see my typo 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Masters of the Air really hit its stride with the "Tear the Fascists Down" song The back story is Crosley is at Oxford after a mission in which almost the entire unit was shot down. The other guy in the scenes depicted is pilot Robert Rosenthal who is at an 8th Air Force "Flak House" whose purpose was to rehabilitate crews that had been through extreme PTSD situations. Rosenthal saved his badly damaged aircraft by a feat of incredible skill and was the only aircraft to return from the 100th. Rosenthal is notable for going on to work the Nurenburg trials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 23 minutes ago, romad1 said: Masters of the Air really hit its stride with the "Tear the Fascists Down" song The back story is Crosley is at Oxford after a mission in which almost the entire unit was shot down. The other guy in the scenes depicted is pilot Robert Rosenthal who is at an 8th Air Force "Flak House" whose purpose was to rehabilitate crews that had been through extreme PTSD situations. Rosenthal saved his badly damaged aircraft by a feat of incredible skill and was the only aircraft to return from the 100th. Rosenthal is notable for going on to work the Nurenburg trials. More backstory to the song. Woodie Guthrie's song like a lot of other left/center-left passion at the time was devoted to a second front in Europe. Stalingrad had only just occurred, and Germany was by no means defeated. When she sings "good people what are we waiting on?" she means the second front. The only way a second front could succeed was if the allies had achieved air superiority over the battlefield. The only way to do that was Operation Pointblank which was the bombing campaign brought to Germany to defeat the Luftwaffe in battle. That was going extremely badly in 1943 and would not finally gain successes without the introduction of the P51 escort fighter in late 1943, which allowed the USAAF to mount "Big Week" in February 1944 which achieved the knockout blow against the Luftwaffe necessary to give planners confidence to launch the Normandy invasion. This was a technical accomplishment as much as a feat of will. It took extraordinary will to continue to get into those bombers and go up against the Luftwaffe with losses like this. In the eyes of Crosley and Rosenthal and all the characters already shot down who are on their way to the Stalags we see how much that will test their wills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Such a great show. I never knew they changed the "25 missions and you get to go home" midstream to these guys. Being in a war zone, knowing when you get the hell out of there is the only motivation you have/need to grind through. I could only imagine the gut punch you got when you heard they moved the goal posts.... Add that to the knowledge they were being used like bait to get the Luftwaffe in the air had to be something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, GoBlue23 said: Considering they were sitting ducks every time they flew a mission, I'm guessing the crews barely reacted when hearing what the new missions would be. Come to think of it, they might have even been relieved by the news assuming it meant they would not be carrying bombs and would be able to carry more ammo to defend the planes. They had plenty to do when they got there. The combined bomber offensive oil and transportation campaigns were determinative in the defeat of Germany on the ground and in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 3/2/2024 at 1:25 AM, 1984Echoes said: Is anyone watching Shogun? It's ****ing brilliant and has one of my favorite actors of all time: Hiroyuki Sanada. The show is fantastic. Episode 3 is a television masterpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 @Tiger337's favorite pole vaulter getting a workout in in Full Swing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Brian_K Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Really enjoy the writing and the weird dream type sequences in Goliath. Another one we just got back into...we started season 4, but then something came up and now are back at it, only a couple episodes left. I love how Billys character just negotiates billion dollar deals in seconds with pretty much no prep work. This last season is a nice reminder of how things are in RL, but people just prefer not to accept it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Shogun and Masters of the Air are two fantastic shows going right now, really enjoying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Mayhem Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Has anyone watched “Continental”? We love the John Wick series and are curious to know if this series is any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Having Apple the wife and I have been looking for a series to watch. We ended up binge watching the 1st season in a week. Such a fun, serious show. Harrison Ford seals the deal for me. He has a great darkish humor and wish he did more sitcom type shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The Bear has already been renewed for season 4. They said shooting will start right after they finish shooting season 3. Season 3 premiers in June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 17 hours ago, Deleterious said: The Bear has already been renewed for season 4. They said shooting will start right after they finish shooting season 3. Season 3 premiers in June. Can’t wait 🎉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/12/2024 at 4:01 PM, John_Brian_K said: Really enjoy the writing and the weird dream type sequences in Goliath. Another one we just got back into...we started season 4, but then something came up and now are back at it, only a couple episodes left. I love how Billys character just negotiates billion dollar deals in seconds with pretty much no prep work. This last season is a nice reminder of how things are in RL, but people just prefer not to accept it. I just started watching Goliath, kind of out of the blue… I’m only on season 1, episode 2, but I really like it a lot. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just passing this along. Companion documentary to Masters of the Air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 11 hours ago, GoBlue23 said: Masters of the Air kind of stumbled on its way to the finish line but the final episode was good and wrapped up the series nicely. I think they made a mistake trying to shoehorn the Tuskegee Airmen into the plot, especially so late in the series. What they should have done is planned for another series focused on the Red Tails. There's not a chance Apple TV would have said no to another Hanks/Spielberg project. Agree with all of this and D-day was like an after thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 It's probably because Crosby slept thru the opening support flights of the invasion😉. It seemed like they tried to include too much into the final episode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 In the category of WWII era series or movies I'd love to see is one based on Louise Alberto Urrea's novel Goodnight, Irene. The book is based his mother's time serving with the Red Cross during the war as a "Donut Dolly" the group of women who were recruited to bring treats and a bit of "home" to the troops during WWIi, Korea and Viet Nam. These young women often found themselves near the front and in harms way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Caught the first couple episodes of Manhunt (AppleTV). It's based on the search for John Wilkes Booth after Lincoln was murdered. It primarily focuses on Edwin Stanton's investigation. It's very well done so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 19 hours ago, GoBlue23 said: They tried cramming too much into a single season with less than 9 hours runtime. Cut out Crosby's fling with the British spy, the Tuskegee Airmen and add a 10th episode and things wouldn't have been so rushed. have yet to watch the final episode. My overall critiques of the series is that they should also do a proper Tuskegee Airman series as well which spends some time on the post-war history which is very interesting. They didn't focus on Big Week which was the critical back breaking of the Luftwaffe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 22 hours ago, GoBlue23 said: Yeah that was really disappointing. I expected their D-Day mission to take up most of the episode and instead we got a 20 second scene in the air. D-Day wasn't as big a deal because no opposition in the air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said: The 100th BG lost 2 aircraft and 20 crew on June 5th on a mission in preparation for the landings. They also flew missions on June 6th that played an important role in blocking German armor from advancing towards the landing sites. The railroad plan or Transportation Plan was very important. That plus the deterioration of overall capability caused by the Oil Campaign were very impactful on the flexibility and resilience of Germany's war machine. I'm not arguing that so much as the fact that D-Day, while a huge milestone, wasn't as big a deal as Big Week for wrestling control of the air from the Luftwaffe. Re: D-Day importance: the episode where they are at the Flak House and oxford has the reference to a Second Front and the Woodie Guthrie song which are explicit signifiers D-Day's importance. I will offer another criticism that was mitigated somewhat by Cros' affair with Westgate, he comes across as a bit too "I was just doing my job" while everyone is offering up hosanas to his superb navigation skills. I mean, it does help to base a show or movie on a memoir if the memoir is somewhat self-deprecating. Edited March 19 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 3/19/2024 at 7:54 AM, romad1 said: have yet to watch the final episode. My overall critiques of the series is that they should also do a proper Tuskegee Airman series as well which spends some time on the post-war history which is very interesting. They didn't focus on Big Week which was the critical back breaking of the Luftwaffe. While you’re waiting for the series, there’s always the movie: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 When I was a kid (about 12 or so) SOAP was a series on ABC. It was a comedic spoof of Soap Operas and it dealt with a lot of adult themes, sexual innuendo and had the first openly gay regular character (played by Billy Crystal). I was not allowed to watch SOAP, but I did anyway. I would hide under the piano, blocked by the bench and watch. I did this because I often heard my parents laughing loudly. It was very funny. This is the scene where I burst out laughing and got caught. I was allowed to watch it after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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