romad1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, chasfh said: So what do we think? Is the information already gone for good? Oh, I don't know...its likely done Russia and China a lot of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: So what do we think? Is the information already gone for good? Well, it's probably too late to give Trump an enema to see if he consumed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Well, it's probably too late to give Trump an enema to see if he consumed it. Plus Ted and Lindsay's heads would get in the way. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 What a dumb defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Just now, Tigerbomb13 said: What a dumb defense yeah - lets see how well that statement ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 No need to see how it ages. It's already crap. Mark Meadows was found in contempt of congress for defying a subpoena from the Jan 6 committee. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-expected-vote-mark-meadows-criminal-contempt-referral-n1285908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: What a dumb defense "There was actually an investigation into Hillary so she is guilty. There was not actually an investigation into Trump so he's not guilty." NewsHacks? Checks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Doesn't matter. As long as the audience believes you then the point is valid. All 38,000 people watching whatever network that is now believes there's no investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, oblong said: Doesn't matter. As long as the audience believes you then the point is valid. All 38,000 people watching whatever network that is now believes there's no investigation. That's the thing Trump and his political allies understand better than anything, if you tell a lie over and over again, as long as you just keep more or less the same lie going, people will eventually start believing you and doubting the truth. They also understand you can muddy up the truth by telling those same lies and get people to become apathetic and believe all politics and all politician are the same and equally crooked or unscrupulous. When in reality, they are just full of shit and lack more scruples than almost anyone. Lying and deciding is an artform for Trump and his political allies like Meadows, Gym Jordan, Guliani, Flynn, Powell, Lindell, and others. To your point, because they have hammered home this election lie so many times over the course of a year or more, very viewing on Newsmax, Fox, OAN, believes them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: That's the thing Trump and his political allies understand better than anything, if you tell a lie over and over again, as long as you just keep more or less the same lie going, people will eventually start believing you and doubting the truth. They also understand you can muddy up the truth by telling those same lies and get people to become apathetic and believe all politics and all politician are the same and equally crooked or unscrupulous. When in reality, they are just full of shit and lack more scruples than almost anyone. Lying and deciding is an artform for Trump and his political allies like Meadows, Gym Jordan, Guliani, Flynn, Powell, Lindell, and others. To your point, because they have hammered home this election lie so many times over the course of a year or more, very viewing on Newsmax, Fox, OAN, believes them. Gaslighting became a popular word over the last 5 years for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Gaslighting became a popular word over the last 5 years for a reason. And I can now use "bloviate" in a sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: That's the thing Trump and his political allies understand better than anything, if you tell a lie over and over again, as long as you just keep more or less the same lie going, people will eventually start believing you and doubting the truth. They also understand you can muddy up the truth by telling those same lies and get people to become apathetic and believe all politics and all politician are the same and equally crooked or unscrupulous. When in reality, they are just full of shit and lack more scruples than almost anyone. Lying and deciding is an artform for Trump and his political allies like Meadows, Gym Jordan, Guliani, Flynn, Powell, Lindell, and others. To your point, because they have hammered home this election lie so many times over the course of a year or more, very viewing on Newsmax, Fox, OAN, believes them. All very true. We all started learning this in earnest when Sean Spicer flat out lied about the size of Trump's inauguration, even though everybody could see the truth right in front of them. IMHO the importance of the impact of that event on our shift in thinking on such bold, bald-faced mass gaslighting is underrated. Edited February 11, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, chasfh said: All very true. We all started learning this in earnest when Sean Spicer flat out lied about the size of his inauguration even though everybody could see the truth right in front of them. IMHO the importance of the impact of that event on our shift in thinking on such bold, bald-faced mass gaslighting is underrated. They also think if you talk louder or more forcefully it somehow makes you correct, or at least seem correct in the eyes of other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 17 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: They also think if you talk louder or more forcefully it somehow makes you correct, or at least seem correct in the eyes of other people. And the funny name calling… let’s not leave that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 23 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: They also think if you talk louder or more forcefully it somehow makes you correct, or at least seem correct in the eyes of other people. Also, talk fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 And never allow you to speak. It's like working in a call center or any public information desk. The customer is seldom right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Also, talk fast. A Ben Shapiro favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 9 hours ago, smr-nj said: And the funny name calling… let’s not leave that out. Of course. All the things I want out of my elected officials. Forget universal healthcare, equitable justice, livable wages, union rights, and good public schools. I want zingers. If you're zingers aren't any good or unoriginal, you won't get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 No wonder they have circled back to Hilary again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: No wonder they have circled back to Hilary again. Why are they picking on Hillary again? Leave her and Pete Davidson alone so they can continue dating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 "Thayne Whipple" lol please don't squeeze the Charmin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Trump Org accounting firm has bailed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, oblong said: Trump Org accounting firm has bailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 They were relied upon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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