1984Echoes Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Funny that we have to call out not drafting a TE with a top-10 pick from actual experience. Or... Not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Holmes has the picks so I think he can pull off a draft similar to this mock: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 triple will never last to round 5. that mock is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Holmes has the picks so I think he can pull off a draft similar to this mock: I think you have to employ a BBA (best burger available) approach. I see the Big Mac going in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: Holmes has the picks so I think he can pull off a draft similar to this mock: You really need to factor a Beef&Cheddar in there somewhere. Possibly 3rd round. Too many Whoppers in the mix. (Yea, it's not the same as the others but you can't turn down the curly fries) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 Sometimes, when you're unsure of who to draft, you need to consult the NFL's foremost draft expert, Martin Mayhew. I called Martin up asking for advice and he was kind enough to oblige. We did a mock draft together and these are our results in the annual What Would Martin Mayhew Do Mock Draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 This came up in my facebook feed. The person proposing it was looking for the Jets to draft a QB. It's an interesting idea... depending on who's on the board I would be tempted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, RedRamage said: This came up in my facebook feed. The person proposing it was looking for the Jets to draft a QB. It's an interesting idea... depending on who's on the board I would be tempted. depends on who is left at 6. if carter or anderson are there, i say no. if they arent, then get it done if no one is offering you a 2024 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 It costs a lot to get your franchise QB. When people know that's what you're doing, the price goes up very quickly. I don't think allowing the Jets to pass 2-4 QB-needy teams in the Raiders and Panthers, maybe the Falcons and Titans too, comes for a price less than a 2024 1st to start. For context, the Bears went from 20 to 11 (400-point jump) to get Fields and had to surrender a future 1st to do so (in addition to a 4th and 5th). 13 to 6 is more than that, a 450-point jump. If the Jets call with that offer you say, "we'll get back to you" and immediately have five people make five phone calls, bidding their offer against those four teams above, as well as the Commanders. If the Jets aren't willing to give a 1st, I would sooner take the Raiders 2nd round pick and drop a single spot, guaranteeing you don't miss your guy. If that's the only offer out there, you have to consider it, but seven spots is a lot. Even assuming Carter and Anderson are gone, you have to know you may miss out on instant difference makers like your pick of Gonzalez/Porter/Witherspoon, Bijan Robinson, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, and even Peter Skoronski. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 That's almost the exact trade the Jets made to go from 6 to 3 to draft Darnold. In fact, the Jets gave up a total of 3 second round picks. No deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 i doubt the jets move up to draft a qb. the jets are in the market for a qb who can help them win now. rodgers or carr or convincing tom brady to play another year. not take a project and hope he gets better next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Not that I would do it but just for shits and giggles what do you think the Jets would give up for Goff right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Jets were rumored to be willing to give two 1sts for Rodgers so I would have to imagine Goff nets at least a 1st plus some mid to late round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I’ve got interest in almost all of these players. Really like Torrance, Benton, and Kelly. Intrigued by Benton, Brooks, and Spears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) On 2/1/2023 at 7:59 PM, RedRamage said: This came up in my facebook feed. The person proposing it was looking for the Jets to draft a QB. It's an interesting idea... depending on who's on the board I would be tempted. The Jets need to give at least a 2024 1st or GTFO. No way am I taking that big a drop and not getting a 1st out of it. Edited February 3, 2023 by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 The Lions can't trade the 6th pick, don't you know this is the last chance in the history of civilation for them to draft a franchise QB? - or so goes the drum beat on Det sports radio. LOL, I suppose Holmes could do a complete 180 after chasing Goff across the country twice, but I'm not putting any money on it. 🏈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Found a new mock draft simulator, seems legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Hongbit said: I’ve got interest in almost all of these players. Really like Torrance, Benton, and Kelly. Intrigued by Benton, Brooks, and Spears. I'm a BGSU alum...Karl Brooks was one of the few bright spots on our team. He lined up inside and out and absolutely terrorized QB's. Would love to see him in Detroit. So far as 2024 goes...we had a WR from the Detroit area named Tyrone Broden xfer out to Arkansas. 6-7 with sub 4.5 speed and a monster catch radius. Our head coach is a moron (Scot Loeffler) or we might have targeted him enough to get him to stay. Broden will get some NFL looks next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 My Mock Draft 2.1 1. Carolina Panthers (Trade w/ CHI): Will Levis, QB, Kentucky 2. Houston Texans: Bryce Young, QB, Alabama 3. Arizona Cardinals: Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech 4. Indianapolis Colts: CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State 5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN): Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia 6. Detroit Lions (from LAR): Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama 7. Las Vegas Raiders: Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson 8. Atlanta Falcons: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon 9. Chicago Bears (Trade w/ CAR): Peter Skoronski, OL, Northwestern 10. Philadelphia Eagles: Isaiah Foskey, EDGE, Notre Dame 11. Tennessee Titans: Paris Johnson, OT, Ohio State 12. Houston Texans (from CLE): Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU 13. New York Jets: Tyler Steen, OT, Alabama 14. New England Patriots: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State 15. Green Bay Packers: Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame 16. Washington Commanders: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State 17. Pittsburgh Steelers: Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland 18. Detroit Lions: Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas 19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Brian Branch, DB, Alabama 20. Seattle Seahawks: Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa 21. Los Angeles Chargers: Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois 22. Baltimore Ravens: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida 23. Minnesota Vikings: Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina 24. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jordan Addison, WR, USC 25. New York Giants: Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee 26. Dallas Cowboys: O’Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida 27. Buffalo Bills: Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina 28. Cincinnati Bengals: Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia 29. New Orleans Saints (from DEN thru SF): Trenton Simpson, LB, Clemson 30. Philadelphia Eagles: Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia 31. Kansas City Chiefs: Tuli Tuipuloto, EDGE, USC Lions 2.18 - Antonio Johnson, DB, Texas A&M 2.26 - Cody Mauch, OG, North Dakota State 3.18 - Daiyan Henley, LB, Washington State 5.18 - Dante Stills, DT, West Virginia 6.5 (from DEN) - Jake Moody, K, Michigan 6.18 - Garrett Williams, CB, Syracuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Could fate change and make the Lions that lucky that in back-to-back years teams make stupid decisions and pass on the most talented player for the most athletic one? If we got Will Anderson at #6 I'd say we already won the 1st round of the draft regardless of what we do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Could fate change and make the Lions that lucky that in back-to-back years teams make stupid decisions and pass on the most talented player for the most athletic one? If we got Will Anderson at #6 I'd say we already won the 1st round of the draft regardless of what we do next. I think if three QBs go in the top five there is a 50/50 or better chance that one of Carter/Anderson is sitting for us. And IMO it would make it three straight years of the perfect prospect for us falling into our laps, so maybe too much to ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 49 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I think if three QBs go in the top five there is a 50/50 or better chance that one of Carter/Anderson is sitting for us. And IMO it would make it three straight years of the perfect prospect for us falling into our laps, so maybe too much to ask for. I think in that scenario the NFL would admit that they got the Sehawks/Rams game wrong with officiating, declare the Rams the winner instead, and move the Lions pick back 2 slots LOL. In all seriousness, I think there is a better than at least 40% chance that between the current teams and a team trading up, 3 QBs could go in the top 5. That is the best scenario for us IMO if we aren't planning on taking a QB ourselves, which I don't think we are. The question then becomes, who do we want as lions fans between Anderson playing on the end/edge and Carter in the interior? More importantly, who would Brad Holmes and the staff want? I would personally rather have Anderson all day over Carter if given the choice. Anderson is a Bosa brothers/Chase Young-like pass rusher and can set the other edge, opposite Hutch, to get at the QB. Having two guys with double digit QB sack, hurry, and pressure potential on opposing ends of the line makes the entire defense better. It also improves our ability to set the edge as a means to contain both in the running game and against mobile QBs moving outside like Fields, Mahomes, Jackson, all of whom we are slated to play next year. Drafting Anderson, assuming he lives up to his potential and isn't a Jadeveon Clowney 2.0, instantly gives us one of the best lines in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 if carter's off field attitude issues are real, the lions may not want him. i think its more like 80% that neither carter nor anderson are there at 6. both certainly will not be. those two are rated as elite talents, maybe the only elite talents in the draft. arizona, seattle, and chicago are not likely to pass on them. i can see chicago trade down to 4, qbs go 1-2, then the lions will need to decide if they want to trade up to 3 to get one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, buddha said: if carter's off field attitude issues are real, the lions may not want him. i think its more like 80% that neither carter nor anderson are there at 6. both certainly will not be. those two are rated as elite talents, maybe the only elite talents in the draft. arizona, seattle, and chicago are not likely to pass on them. i can see chicago trade down to 4, qbs go 1-2, then the lions will need to decide if they want to trade up to 3 to get one of them. Do you think Cardinal's scenario could also be true though that there is a greater than 50% chance 3 QBs are taken in the top 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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