Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 NPR: A political gap in excess deaths widened after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, study says Excerpts from the article . . . Quote Republican voters in Florida and Ohio died at a higher rate than their counterparts, according to a new study. Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before." Quote Researchers saw a divide suddenly emerge As they calculated excess death rate data for Florida and Ohio, the researchers found only small differences between Republican and Democratic voters in the first year of the pandemic, with both groups suffering similarly sharp rises in excess deaths that winter. Things changed as the summer of 2021 approached. When coronavirus vaccine access widened, so did the excess death gap. In the researchers' adjusted analysis of the period after April 1, 2021, they calculated Democratic voters' excess death rate at 18.1, and Republicans' at 25.8 — a 7.7 percentage-point difference equating to a 43% gap. After the gap was established in the summer of 2021, it widened further in the fall, according to the study's authors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: NPR: A political gap in excess deaths widened after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, study says Excerpts from the article . . . What are the chances the red hats will point to this as evidence that the mainstream media is complicit in killing Republicans by encouraging vaccine use, knowing full well Republicans would reject it precisely because the mainstream media encouraged it? I think we've seen that movie already, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, chasfh said: What are the chances the red hats will point to this as evidence that the mainstream media is complicit in killing Republicans by encouraging vaccine use, knowing full well Republicans would reject it precisely because the mainstream media encouraged it? I think we've seen that movie already, yes? They did take the vaccine, but the vaccine was designed by Fauci and Gates to harm Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 This goes well with Tater's post https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/22/us/politics/ron-desantis-covid.html Once a vaccine advocate, the Florida governor lost his enthusiasm for the shot before the Delta wave sent Covid hospitalizations and deaths soaring. It’s a grim chapter he now leaves out of his rosy retelling of his pandemic response. Quote While Florida was an early leader in the share of over-65 residents who were vaccinated, it had fallen to the middle of the pack by the end of July 2021. When it came to younger residents, Florida lagged behind the national average in every age group. That left the state particularly vulnerable when the Delta variant hit that month. Floridians died at a higher rate, adjusted for age, than residents of almost any other state during the Delta wave, according to the Times analysis. With less than 7 percent of the nation’s population, Florida accounted for 14 percent of deaths between the start of July and the end of October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 It's my 81 year old Uncle's facebook feed! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Never let them forget what they said...? Man, I have a LOOOOONG list of contemptible statements by Fascist ****ing Republicans, by any of the Scumbag Trump's (not just one), by Benedict Arnold MAGA, by White Trash Bigots, by 50 years of in-your-face lies by Republicans... This thread would be dominated by a huge series of posts/ reprehensible quotes from right wing scumbags... It would turn into a 1,200 page novel... And that's just the first one out of a series of tomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Why would any of us give a **** what Piers Morgan or Gene Simmons say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Why would any of us give a **** what Piers Morgan or Gene Simmons say? because they listen to Scott Baio and Hercules and James Woods and Kirk Cameron and Ricky Schroeder so it stands to reason in their mind that D list celebrities matter in terms of public policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Why would any of us give a **** what Piers Morgan or Gene Simmons say? I honestly didn't realize that Gene Simmons was still alive lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, oblong said: It's my 81 year old Uncle's facebook feed! Libs. Owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 6:58 PM, Tiger337 said: They did take the vaccine, but the vaccine was designed by Fauci and Gates to harm Republicans. Bobby Jr, is that you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Never let them forget what they said...? Man, I have a LOOOOONG list of contemptible statements by Fascist ****ing Republicans, by any of the Scumbag Trump's (not just one), by Benedict Arnold MAGA, by White Trash Bigots, by 50 years of in-your-face lies by Republicans... This thread would be dominated by a huge series of posts/ reprehensible quotes from right wing scumbags... It would turn into a 1,200 page novel... And that's just the first one out of a series of tomes. I used to watch some guy's videos (Dusty Smith) called "Meet The Victims" where he'd show all their "COVID is fake" "Vaccines are bad" posts and then talk about how those same people had died. I think he was up to about 15 videos before he stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Libs. Owned. You misspelled "Pwned". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edman85 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 It seems like another wave is here or coming. Just based on people I know catching it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I, for one, am enjoying the swine-free posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 I don’t think I’ve ever known more people have it at once than I do right now. Me and my partner, her parents, and my dad (whom I haven’t seen or been in physical contact with in a few weeks) all have it right now. Just like a bad cold for me that has slowly weakened, but it’s hit the older folks a little harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 8/7/2023 at 5:26 PM, Edman85 said: It seems like another wave is here or coming 7 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: don’t think I’ve ever known more people have it at once than I do right now probably set off by school starting. Definitely a lot of it about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 I’m at the point where I am just treating it like a cold. I know several who have had it recently but all said it was very minor and 5 years ago the “symptoms” wouldn’t have even registered on their radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 5 hours ago, oblong said: I’m at the point where I am just treating it like a cold. I know several who have had it recently but all said it was very minor and 5 years ago the “symptoms” wouldn’t have even registered on their radar. What are the emergency room experiences now? Overcrowding, respirators? What do nurses think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 My wife is on ICU and hasn’t had a patient with COVID in there because of COVID in months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 10 hours ago, oblong said: I’m at the point where I am just treating it like a cold. I know several who have had it recently but all said it was very minor and 5 years ago the “symptoms” wouldn’t have even registered on their radar. I know of a friend of a friend, unvaxxed, who was hospitalized last month with it. The friend caught it from the unvaxxed person and was fine in a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: I know of a friend of a friend, unvaxxed, who was hospitalized last month with it. The friend caught it from the unvaxxed person and was fine in a couple of days. I hope it changed their mind about being vaxxed. Considering what we are seeing now I think a wave is going through and a lot of us are getting it without knowing. Data is pretty clear and I am not worrying about the unvaxxed anymore. They know the drill. If I get to the point where I'm coughing and sneezing then I just stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, oblong said: My wife is on ICU and hasn’t had a patient with COVID in there because of COVID in months. Same with what my wife is saying about her ICU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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