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This is the most money I’ve ever paid to attend a little league game.

Possibly but I believe the Tigers should keep him just cause I don't think they would get much in return anyway. I think there is a better chance Jeimer bounces back close to his 2020/2021 levels and helping the Tigers the next couple years than whatever C level prospect we get turning into anything.

Not that it would matter since this season is lost but this is why I hated them dragging their feet last year in regards to his injury. He went down in May, had all the signs of needing TJ but instead they chose to just rest him for almost 2 months before finally caving in and giving him the surgery. Perhaps it was Turnbull's decision since no player wants to go through TJ but when all the signs are there don't pussyfoot around, instead get it done ASAP so he can get back sooner. If we were in the midst of a playoff chase him getting back and getting 10 starts vs. none could be difference. And even if it wasn't it would be nice to have him potentially work out any kinks or command issues this year so next season he will be all ironed out and ready to go. K end of rant.

If a team is going to make a trade with the Tigers, they’re going to want to pick up someone reliable who will help them contend now. Who on the Tigers fills that bill? Skubal is a guy with more of a future than a present. He’s also less-than-reliable at the moment, so I don’t see how a team needing a reliable starter will believe they can get anything other than up-and-down starts out of him for the rest of this year. Plus, from our perspective, why trade one guy with more of a future than present for another guy with nothing but future across more or less the same timeframe of control? So I think Skubal stays put. I see no one on the position player side to deal, and besides, aren’t we the team that needs good position players, anyway? So hobbling our current lineup now for merely a chance at an equivalent return for the future is something even Al can’t be so dumb as to do. (I hope?) So don’t worry about us trading Riley, and no one is going to want any of the underperforming everybody else. We have no starting pitching outside of Skubal to deal. That leaves the relief corps. Who among the relievers are candidates who can reliably help a contending team now? Forget any of the young guns like Alex Lange or Will Vest, since they also have more future than present, and teams want present. And no one is going to want MLB-level lottery tickets like Angel de Jesus (#23 Tigers prospect on Pipeline), or recently-gimpy guys like Cisneros or Alexander. Teams are going to be looking for healthy, reliable guys who can help them now, and we’ll be looking to deal from a list of guys who don’t have any real future with us. That leaves these guys as the list of candidates who fill that bill: Andrew Chafin; Joe Jimenez; Michael Fulmer. I think Gregory Soto, who technically has a future since he doesn’t even reach arb until next year, might still be made available during phone conversations, but Al will ask too high a price. So I think Soto stays put. I also don’t think Fulmer is a very attractive piece right now, since he walks too many guys and doesn’t strike out enough guys, his fast pitches are down a tick or two from last year, and worst of all, he is having a poor July. Recency bias and all. So, my guess is that we end up trading Chafin and Jimenez to either one or two teams, and our return will include one overachieving position player we can put into the lineup right now; one stalled minor league position player who was once a numbered prospect but is topped out in the high minors at the moment; and at least two pitching lottery tickets.

I am pro-choice, I have 2 adopted kids, and Harbaugh should STFU.

Bring back Mario!

It will be a good day when we no longer have a Castro on this roster.

The fact that Skubal has 4 more years under team control and isn’t a half season rental is significant. This is the big reason there will be demand for him despite his inconsistency.

Please no. First game in years that my wife and I are attending.

I've just started to use my camper that I bought from my cousin in Michigan a couple years ago. And I do mean just started... like, I took it out for the first time ever this past week to the Smokey Mountains for a family reunion here this coming weekend. It's older, 2011, but that means I can beat it up as much as is necessary to get myself "back to nature". I have some steep learning curve to go through in order to deal with: tire blowouts, properly draining grey and black water tanks, and not scraping the back corner of my RV against gas station pumps... working on those things... It's 32' so it's a pretty big boy... (Is that why I didn't see the back end swing into the gas pumps? They didn't blow up BTW so I think I'm good...) I've been sitting on my backside the past 3 years 24/7 running three different online businesses so I'm pretty much out of shape and pretty much want to retire from my main job (manufacturing company that the back office has all been VPN'ing into since Covid started... and we never signed up for new office space - to this day - after shutting down our old office. But we did have to keep our manufacturing facilities of course...). Because... I would love to get back to nature and do some hiking, kayaking, etc... Wondering who else is travelling across America RV'ing as much as they can... Maybe noone in here but thought I would start this thread. If/when I retire from my main job... I built an office in the back end of my camper (and tore out the bunk beds that were there since my two are out of the nest...); which covers running my eBay business when I'm on the road, and another business I can do anywhere. Gonna show some pics of my first Back to Nature Excursion!!!

This all started with Rush Limbaugh...............this tone, this awfulness out loud. I'm so glad he's dead.

Important context: Some are now suggesting that Manchin's last time pulling off this bill was a means to get Rs to give up the CHIPS hostage. If they get it passed, it's one of those rare cases of them actually outmaneuvering the Turtle.

We were actually thisclose to pulling off a sweep of the Padres.

Say what you want about the guy—and people do, since he lips off as a pundit on MSNBC—but at least this guy puts his money where his mouth is.

VICTOR VICTOR VICTOR!!!!!! VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

“Make it Bazooka gum and you got yourself a deal.”

Maybe they could acquire a halfway decent TV crew.

Nice play for Victor Reyes.... Bad defense probably just shortened Skubs day there

I could spend all day here

This will be the rehab start that his shoulder and elbow explode simultaneously and the ball park has to be immediately cleared as smoldering debris is everywhere.

SF played this one right.

Ha.Ha......"The Great Leap Forward" - Chairman Al Avila

Agree completely as is the risk of getting COVID or another virus/illness. Each person has their own risks they are willing to take. I don't want to get this into the political forum, was just responding to the wishing ill to teams/players that chose not to get the vaccine when we don't know what reasons they may have for it and they know the consequences it has on them and their teams.

disagree here. The 'science' is completely settled. What remains is that nothing in life is absolute - but that is true of *everything*. It's true every time you walk out the door of your house, get in your car, step off the curb. The 'science' is that the COVID vaccine represents no excess risk compared to virtually anything else we do in life everyday. You might as well decide to refuse to drive or take any of the drugs in your medicine cabinet, eat a vegetable, or go for walk. Any of these things might hurt you because of some odd confluence of rare circumstances, but they are risks we normally assume because otherwise life is paralysis. The COVID vaccine is exactly the same in that regard.

They've been flirting with that rhetoric since Nixon's Southern Strategy. Now they scream it instead of whisper.

This is who the Republican Party is in 2022.

It isn't the Cardinals so much, but two of their best offensive players that think they know more than doctors and scientists and have decided to skip the trip instead of being good teammates and just getting vaccinated. Their choice, but their anti-vax reasoning is probably based in some kind of conspiracy belief or political stance. People like this continue to hold us back overall. Selfish. The reason I want Tyler Bertuzzi traded. Every other NHL player has gotten the vaccine. Have any died? Of course, his traded value is diminished as he can't be traded to any Canadian team and teams that have a lot of games in Canada wouldn't trade nearly enough to make it a fair trade. Again, Selfish. Hey, I lost co-workers at both jobs over this. One of them still can't get a job a year later and is whining about benefits running out soon. But.......hey, you know..........reasons.

I agree with a lot of what Chas said, but a lot of it depends on how much a team believes in Skubal as well. Even among competitive ballclubs, there isn't a "one size fits all" view on any player, whether it be Skubal or anyone else. Because every GM and every front office is different and values different things. (EDIT: Some of it may depend on how a ballclub builds their roster as well; someone like Skubal makes a lot of sense to a smaller market competitive club who values controllability and affordability over the long term.) Put another way, one GM of a competitive franchise looking to add a starter may feel he is too inconsistent, but another one may feel differently, or may place a high value on the fact that he is controllable over a longer period of time.

I was kind of being tongue-in-cheek. More of a commentary on the state of young pitcher's health, or at least the Tigers.

Fixed that for you.

The guy headlining a Right Wing QGOP conference this week. Tucker Carleson's hero. The "leader" the former president who lost wants to be....

True story. The Republican party is selling feather boas on their merch site. That's to celebrate Marco Rubio and Lindsay Graham.

Well, he is the only one defending manly men and their virility. Which is why the Russian airborne forces were voted gayest ever.

A quick Google search shows that there are about 3,000 adoptable children in Michigan at any given time and Harbaugh isn't adopting any of them but we are to believe he would if a woman is forced to give birth to one.

Because the fact he needs to tell us that shows his arrogance. Why do we need to know? His statement on what he would do in a situation is irrelevant and has nothing to do with what public policy should be or what other people should do in their lives and in their situation. He gives off a "I'm better than you" vibe. I'm very happy that people choose to adopt, it makes the world a better place. But you can't force people to do that and our laws should not be based on that option. It's akin to saying we should ban eating meat because someone else went vegan and feels so much better for it.

If you wonder why the gentle rustle of the river water seems to be getting louder, that's the waterfall you're rushing toward....

"Unintended" is both incorrect and too generous. Predictable, understood and judged irrelevant is more accurate.

Now they don't lol

he managed to forget about Coolbaugh for just long enough to get it done.

Thurmond, Eric Show and Dave Dravecky, three fifths of the Padres rotation, were members of the John Birch Society. I remember reading that and thinking nothing of it and it never became a big deal. I can only imagine what social media would do with that today.

Someone on trade rumors proposed we package Avila with Skubal.

I think he is a relatively poor GM and I wish they had a different GM, but I don't think every move he makes is automatically going to be awful. His past history suggests that in cases like this one where the Tigers have some leverage he is more likely to ask for too much than too little.

OTOH, he's probably bitten off more than he can chew this time which means this is possibly the optimum time to stop him decisively enough that he either a) burns up his military enough to neuter himself, b)burns enough support inside Russia to fall. If the West fails to take of advantage of this opportunity the next time the strategic situation may be far less favorable. There might not be a large strong population ready to undertake the fight, he might have learned enough not to make the same tactical mistakes again, the Chinese may strengthen his military tech to where the Western weapons differential won't be as decisive. It seems naive to think Putin's malignancy will in anyway abate if the outcome is a loss of 20% of Ukraine and a temporary military stalemate. The 'risk of everything' is inherent to Putin's existence as leader of Russia and he will continue to leverage those fears against us until he fails sufficiently, or he dies. And in the latter case there is no guarantee his replacement won't be as bad. Does this have to end with Ukraine whole as of status quo 2013? I don't know. But it should end with Putin's army clearly and unambiguously defeated at least to where it's the Russian side that is suing for peace. Plus, for once, this is not a war of our choice, it's Ukraine's war of necessity, and after all the times since 1953 that we engaged in conflicts of choice we started for the wrong reasons in the name of people/cultures who in the end weren't interested enough, there seems something unseemly about the idea of now failing to support Ukraine in a fight they do desperately want to win and when they are fighting much more for the ideals we usually only claim to fight for when our real reasons were oil, or political ideology or other economic expediency.

I want a Spinoff of Security Guard Jerry experiencing the last 12 years of Nebraska football.

Gross.

Nope. The current batch of democrats is the biggest threat there is to our country and democracy.

Thats funny. The guy who supports freedom, safe and fair elections, the Constitution, law and order, national security, etc, etc is called an embarrasment. At least I'm not on here calling people names that don't agree with me.