digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Only one in four Democrats wants Biden to run again in 2024: survey https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3920531-only-one-in-four-democrats-wants-biden-to-run-again-in-2024-survey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I think Biden is doing great, and assuming he still is by next November, I'll be happy to root for him to win again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, chasfh said: I think Biden is doing great, and assuming he still is by next November, I'll be happy to root for him to win again. Must be part of the 25% White House Withholds Requested Info About Biden’s Classified Doc Scandal Cover-Up Quote The White House has refused to disclose requested information to the House Oversight Committee about who covered up President Biden’s classified document scandal from the American people for 68 days before it was leaked to CBS News. In a letter obtained Tuesday by Breitbart News, the White House refused to provide the requested information to the committee’s investigation of the scandal, claiming it did not force the National Archives (NARA) to withhold a public statement on the scandal. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/21/white-house-withholds-requested-info-about-bidens-classified-doc-scandal-cover-up/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 lol breitbart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Only one in four Democrats wants Biden to run again in 2024: survey https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3920531-only-one-in-four-democrats-wants-biden-to-run-again-in-2024-survey/ useless finding. You could have done the same survey on GOP a few weeks ago and found they didn't want Trumpus to run. Whether people "want" someone to run is a silly question because it's comparing the real world to everyone's utopian imagination, which always wins the question. But their imagination will not be on the ballot when the time comes to actually vote. On a related note, I was having a conversation with a Chinese born co-worker, and he mentioned that something he was finding weird about America is that we have assumed a cultural attitude of complaint about *everything*. It doesn't matter what you ask Americans about, they are dissatisified with it. This attitude shift is really screwing up social survery work because surveyers are faced with two bad choices: The model says you must ask the same questions every year for the answers to be comparable, but if attitudes and patterns of language use shift such that the questions operate at a different level of meaning to people, then the answers aren't comparable unless you do change the questions to dig down to a more serious answer than the average American's current level of flippancy about everything. And of course if you do change the question, the original reasons not to still apply. The pollsters are going to continue to find people on both sides of the ideological spectrum actually getting more votes than standard method "approval" style questions would predict. Edited March 28, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: useless finding. You could have done the same survey on GOP a few weeks ago and found they didn't want Trumpus to run. Whether people "want" someone to run is a silly question because it's comparing the real world to everyone's utopian imagination, which always wins the question. But their imagination will not be on the ballot when the time comes to actually vote. On a related note, I was having a conversation with a Chinese born co-worker, and he mentioned that something he was finding weird about America is that we have assumed a cultural attitude of complaint about *everything*. It doesn't matter what you ask Americans about, they are dissatisified with it. This attitude shift is really screwing up social survery work because surveyers are faced with two bad choices: The model says you must ask the same questions every year for the answers to be comparable, but if attitudes and patterns of language use shift such that the questions operate at a different level of meaning to people, then the answers aren't comparable unless you do change the questions to dig down to a more serious answer than the average American's current level of flippancy about everything. And of course if you do change the question, the original reasons not to still apply. The pollsters are going to continue to find people on both sides of the ideological spectrum actually getting more votes than standard method "approval" style questions would predict. Just for grins and to agree with you https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/donald-trump-investigations/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email More than six in ten Americans (61%) do not want Trump to be President, again. 38% want him to be elected to another term. 89% of Democrats, 64% independents, and 21% of Republicans do not want Trump to return to the White House. 76% of Republicans want Trump to be president, again. Of note, 41% of white Evangelical Christians are against a second Trump Administration. 39% of Americans, notched down from 42% in November of 2022, have a favorable opinion of Trump. 51% have an unfavorable view of the former president. We can all cherry pick as well as pig guano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Nate Silver mentioned months ago about these polls and the binary aspect being misleading. Someone might say they are not a fan of Biden as a preferred choice, and answer the poll/quesiton that way, but they damn well will vote for him if on the ballot regardless of who's on the other side. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Only one in four Democrats wants Biden to run again in 2024: survey https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3920531-only-one-in-four-democrats-wants-biden-to-run-again-in-2024-survey/ Even if they don't want him to run they'll still vote for him and he'll likely beat that indicted bitch on the other side. Have fun losing again. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, oblong said: Nate Silver mentioned months ago about these polls and the binary aspect being misleading. Someone might say they are not a fan of Biden as a preferred choice, and answer the poll/question that way, but they damn well will vote for him if on the ballot regardless of who's on the other side. BINGO!!! Put another way... it doesn't even MATTER who the Dem nominee is, Biden or otherwise... I'm voting straight Dem ticket 2024. Until the GQP Fascist Party is eliminated as a threat to our Democracy/ Constitution of the United States. Republican Party (as I used to know them) no longer exists or is a voting option for me. Bar none. Edited March 28, 2023 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Stop quoting the latest incarnation of Stan. You only bring his ignored posts to light. Again, back to vaccines. Do your part and vaccinate yourself against that and don't spread it to others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 22 hours ago, oblong said: Nate Silver mentioned months ago about these polls and the binary aspect being misleading. Someone might say they are not a fan of Biden as a preferred choice, and answer the poll/quesiton that way, but they damn well will vote for him if on the ballot regardless of who's on the other side. This describes me to a T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 22 hours ago, oblong said: Nate Silver mentioned months ago about these polls and the binary aspect being misleading. Someone might say they are not a fan of Biden as a preferred choice, and answer the poll/quesiton that way, but they damn well will vote for him if on the ballot regardless of who's on the other side. I wouldn't blame the polls so much as I would the horserace pundits who could never get the nuance. 2022 was a bit of a perfect storm because when you combine the tendency for the incumbent's party to lose badly during the first midterm with the internalization of the idea that polling would always be biased toward Democrats (as it was in 2016 and 2020), it really blinded a lot of these folks to some other trends in the electorate and the idea that 2022 was a more unique environment that might not match conventional wisdom. I think a lot about how the punditry just completely downplayed Dobbs as an issue.... like, they recognized it for the first month or so after the decision, but it's almost like they assumed that because there was less reporting and less buzz about the issue going into the fall, that meant it no longer mattered or had much of a bearing on swing voters. And that appears to be completely wrong. Either way, I just think the situation is much different now.... the Dave Wasserman and Amy Walter types may have harder jobs in this day and age and can't just fall back onto "conventional wisdom" to do their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Speaking of Amy Walter... right on cue after a slew of bad polling for Meatball Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 Another nickname for Rhonda Santis apparently being workshopped is.... Tiny D Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Tiny D is the first nickname Trump has given someone that legit made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I mean, DeSantis could just counter with Fat D or Heavy D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Here is the deal Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 47 minutes ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Here is the deal Jack Confirmed. It's Papi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: Here is the deal Jack you don't know how to do math either. S&P up 6% since inauguaration day. 1/20/2021: 3851 3/31/2023:12:20 4087 Edited March 31, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I didn't lose 23% of my 401k or anything cost to that. Did lose some the last year, but overall been pretty decent. It fluctuates but that is investing. Calling bs on your numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 If everyone ignores the troll, he will get bored again and leave in a few weeks. Any reply to his memes and links just restarts the clock again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Hongbit said: If everyone ignores the troll, he will get bored again and leave in a few weeks. Any reply to his memes and links just restarts the clock again. I did have him on ignore but I checked the thread before logging in so his post was visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Yes, it is complete and utter bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Yep, this just is what the party is right now.... don't get why people try to wishcast otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Amy starting to ask the right questions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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